Case CV Sod Buster JR

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slipjoint01

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Can I get a better soddie for the money? I have read all there is too, and it seems Case is ahead of the rest in terms of quality and price. My preference has always been for traditional knives and it seems the perfect size and fit for an EDC for myself. The knife will be a user, cutting feed bags, breaking down boxes, cleaning deer, fish, and ducks. I prefer carbon steel and know how to take care of it. Would a Queen, Moore Maker, or any other brand have any significant difference in terms of durability and edge retention, or should I just pick up the Case locally? Any opinions, guys?
 
The Queen (in D2) will hold the edge quite a bit longer than CV or 1095 once properly sharpened.
However, you may have to put in a bit of work to get it that way.

Regardless, they'll all get the job done and for the money you can't lose.
 
Blues said:
The Queen (in D2) will hold the edge quite a bit longer than CV or 1095 once properly sharpened.
However, you may have to put in a bit of work to get it that way.

Regardless, they'll all get the job done and for the money you can't lose.
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I've heard that blue. But I also believe Case's CV is slightly harder and sharper than D2. Plus it can be sharpened fairly quickly if out in the woods, D2would take quite a bit longer I believe. How does Case CV compare to 1095?

Thanks for the input. :)
 
slipjoint01 said:
I've heard that blue. But I also believe Case's CV is slightly harder and sharper than D2. Plus it can be sharpened fairly quickly if out in the woods, D2would take quite a bit longer I believe. How does Case CV compare to 1095?

Thanks for the input. :)
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The reason I mentioned the D2 is because (as far as I recall) the Queen Sodbuster ("Country Cousin" or something like that) is D2.
(The Moore Maker's built by Queen are 1095.)

Case CV is very similar in its properties to 1095. Some like it a bit more, some less and most wouldn't notice the difference.

I don't think that Case CV is hardened more than the D2 but I suppose each heat treat has its own characteristics and anomalies and I haven't run Rockwell tests on any batches of blades.

I think you'll be very happy with CV. It takes a great edge, is easy to sharpen and re-sharpen in the field.
 
I like the Case CV, myself! I've got them both and I've
found that the CV holds the edge better! Now, that's
me and how it works for me! But IMHO Case is the one!


Jason
 
Blues and Baker, thank you guys. I think I will just go ahead and pick up the Case at my local feed store. I handled it and the fit and finish is very nice with smooth bolsters. The blade isn't center and sits to the right, but that's okay as I tend to pull it to the left anyway. The handle has almost a soft broken in feel and feels nice to hold and the snap is strong with a sturdy backspring. I think the blade should handle most jobs just fine.

Any reccomendations for sharpening CV? I'm new to knife sharpening, and I don't recall ever seeing my old man sharpen his knives. I recently learned to hone a straight razor though, so that may help. Do you guys refer to it as honing or sharpening? With a straight razor, it's really only called sharpening if the razor has almost no edge. Honing is just what's done when the razor gets dulled.
 
Visit this forum and you'll learn more than you ever wanted to know about sharpening techniques.

Just rummage through some of the threads there or use "search" and you'll find what you need.

The definitions you used for razors work well for knives as well. However, the terms are often interchangeable depending on who's doing the talking.
 
Blues said:
Visit this forum and you'll learn more than you ever wanted to know about sharpening techniques.

Just rummage through some of the threads there or use "search" and you'll find what you need.

The definitions you used for razors work well for knives as well. However, the terms are often interchangeable depending on who's doing the talking.
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Thanks blue. A couple stickies would def. help out. Just as a reccomendation, this is the best knife forums I've come across by the way. But a stickie with a begginners guide would be great.
 
Well they have all told you right but I personally like Case tru-sharp better myself.

But I would get a case soddie for sure. My first sodbuster was a case cv soddie. Picked it up at a fair and love it. Nice little patina and just a great knife. I just like the tru-sharp better cause I forget to oil cv all the time.
 
slipjoint01 said:
...The blade isn't center and sits to the right...
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It may be coincidence, but I have three Case Sodbuster Jr's and they all sit off-center to the right, each one exactly the same.

FWIW I love Queen's D2, but for a real user I would carry the Case CV. They are SO much easier to sharpen, and keep sharp. And while I can get D2 real sharp I believe the CV gets just a bit sharper, at least with my ability anyway :D.
 
slipjoint01 said:
I've heard that blue. But I also believe Case's CV is slightly harder and sharper than D2. Plus it can be sharpened fairly quickly if out in the woods, D2would take quite a bit longer I believe. How does Case CV compare to 1095?

Thanks for the input. :)
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CV is not harder than D2. But you are right that D2 is harder to sharpen.

I have compared CV to several brands of 1095 in side-by-side manila rope cutting tests. In every test, the 1095 lasted longer.
 
Blues said:
The Queen (in D2) will hold the edge quite a bit longer than CV or 1095 once properly sharpened.
However, you may have to put in a bit of work to get it that way.

Regardless, they'll all get the job done and for the money you can't lose.
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Queen Country Cousin in D2
Once sharp, which takes time, a couple of licks of an Extra Fine DMT holds the edge well
The point on the Queen is more pronounced and usable than the Case

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knarfeng said:
CV is not harder than D2. But you are right that D2 is harder to sharpen.

I have compared CV to several brands of 1095 in side-by-side manila rope cutting tests. In every test, the 1095 lasted longer.
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Isn't CV 1095 with added chromium and vanadium?
 
I've read here somewhere that case's CV is hardened to 55-56hrc and SS to 52-54hrc more or less if I recall correctly

gec's 1095 is cryo treated to 57-59hrc and I can definitively feel a difference compared to CV, te CV feels softer and last less probably depending on the difference in HT and HRC

tha case sharpens even on my pants but requests more frequent stroppong of resharpening than GEC's 1095
in D2 I've used the canittler from CS and it sharpened pretty well on strop and sandpaper, edge holding is very good

my 2 cents
Maxx
 
slipjoint01 said:
Can I get a better soddie for the money?
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Y'all can discuss the fine points of steel make-up, etc. But the quickie answer to slipjoint01's question is no you can't. With even a little patience, you can get a Case yella CV soddie jr. on a popular online auction site for $20 or less. That price/performance ratio is mighty tough to beat.

One word of warning about yella Case knives, though, slipjoint01: Don't baby that thing. These suckers beg to be used. :D

Have fun with yours. And welcome to the coolest sub-forum on the coolest knife forum on this or any other planet.

-- Mark
 
The small case sodbuster is a cheap knife, which is whilst much loved, objectively pretty awful.

:D Well, it is if you don't like hollow grinds on small pocket knives that are meant to take a kick occasionally

Hence the liking for the flat ground Queen

Note that the yellow delrin Moore Maker is a well built thing in 1095 - flat ground too, and with a less bellied point as has been mentioned - that is not in itself a good/bad thing - there are advantages to both the Case and the MM belly

Its $40 tho

(The Case is one of those knives that, perhaps rightly, lots of people think they should own as a totem - I know that's how I feel about the thing. Wouldn't actually take it out with me :D :D)
 
carried and used the heck outta mine since i got it 2 years ago... F&F was really good and sharpens up easily, mean slicer, mine has done everything from scraping yard clipplings off the mower deck to cutting cardboards to slicing apples (after cleaning of course:D)
it really is one of my favorite knives, i'm in the minority here as i love the blades shape on the case vs, the others.
good luck
gene
heres mine actually it looks even funkier as this was last year
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