Case CV vs. Tru-Sharp-SIZE DIFFERENCES???

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Today I received two Case Medium CV Stockman knives. I bought one for myself, and the other I thought that my grandfather would appreciate.

I gave one of the knives to him and he really loved it. Having carried the same Schrade Uncle Henry Stockman for a number of years since I can't remember, I looked at the knife and thought that he would like something a little newer.

He offered me the old knife for giving him the new, which I really appreciate. There's nothing more that a knife-nut likes then having his grandfather's old pocket knife that he carried for years.

There are no real memories tied to it by him (hes just a knife-user), but I have many memories of him using it.

But on to the topic, I got home from dinner and giving my grandfather his new companion, and I compared the Medium CV Stockman (that I bought for myself as my grandfather's new knife's brother) to my Case Medium Tru-Sharp Stockman.

There is actually a size difference. The CV Stockman is about 1/4-3/8" longer then the SS Tru-Sharp Medium Stockman.

Now, I know what some of you guys are thinking, and the answer is YES-I am very sure that the Tru-Sharp knife is a Medium model and not a Small model.

Now, even though I am very sure, I am open to argument, so I'm not gonna say that I am right here.

My question is, what's with the size difference?

Here are some pictures so you guys can see what I am talking about.

There is a Large CV Stockman on top for even more size comparison:

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Sorry about the lighting, but its night here and Im no photographer.
 
You'll find each of those has a different model number. From top to bottom that's probably a 6375. a 63032, and a 63087. There's also a 6344 that looks the same as the 63032 but is only 3 1/4" long - also called a medium stockman. Unfortunately, Case and/or its dealers have decided to call about half the pattern inventory a "medium stockman" - there are about 4 other pattern numbers that are lumped under medium stockman also - from 3 1/4" to 3 7/8" (though I'd consider the 3 7/8" a standard stockman) - from "square" bolstered serpentine, to round bolstered serpentine, to straight equal end, to humpback equal end. So yeah, "medium stockman" is a fairly useless term with Case knives -- you really need to get specific with the pattern number to know what you've got (or what you'll be getting).
 
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zerogee hit the nail on the head. There's several "medium" stockmans in Case's line, which is misleading, confusing, and doesn't "jive" with other companies' descriptions (although to be fair few have the variety of Case). For example, the 6344 "medium" stockman is 3.25" closed. Exactly the same closed length as Queen's "small" stockman. Case's "small" stockman is smaller than most any other company makes, so I suppose it's all relative.

You do really have to pay attention to the pattern number and the actual size. For example, the Dark Red Bone Medium Stockman CV (6344) and the Chestnut Bone Medium Stockman CV (63032) look like the same knife. Both are "medium", both have a pen blade rather than a spay, etc. But the size is very different. The 3/8" difference in closed length might sound small on paper, but this translates to a significant difference. The 6344 is smallish, slim, almost a pen knife, with light pulls on the thinish, flexible blades. The 63032 is wider, thicker, with stronger pulls and more robust blades. Even a Buck 303 or Schrade 34OT make the 6344 seem small and dainty.

A few weeks ago I ask if anyone had a picture to compare the size of these 2 knives, but nobody did. I had a 63032 for a few days (was forced to return it), and I forgot to take a picture myself. Been kicking myself since.
 
Here's the second page of the thread with the relative sizes of several of the Case "medium" stockman against both their larger scaled versions and several others of the line and a couple other makers offerings - you can also see how the scaling affects thickness as well as length. (Unfortunately, the 63032 is not in the comparison shots, as Planterz says.)

comparison of some Case "medium" stockman patterns

Read the first page also -- it shows that the confusion is rampant - what is large, what is small, what is standard, what is medium? In short, trust only pattern numbers, and be sure to check vendor length against the proper length for that pattern numbers - they often get confused too.
 
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Great looking knives.And good on you for thinking of grandpa!Yea,model numbers are the thing with Case.The last two describe the pattern.Well sometimes three.First,the handle material,second, number of blades.Enjoy!:D
 
I've learned to take Case's size descriptions with a grain of salt (sometime's a whole shaker's worth). I bought a 5344 'Medium' stag stockman a while back, and was shocked at how small it actually was. To make matters worse, at the time, both Case and many retailers had actually posted inaccurate size specs on it (listed as bigger than it actually was, by 1/4" or so).

So, as zerogee, Planterz and Seals have all mentioned, look only at the pattern number for comparison's sake. If the pattern numbers aren't the same, it's just like comparing apples to oranges (or, with the size difference, grapefruits?).
 
Case Stockman Sizes:

6327....2-3/4" round bolsters
6333....2-5/8" square bolsters
63087...3-1/4" round bolsters
6344....3-1/4" square bolsters
6318....3-1/2" round bolsters
63032...3-1/2" square bolsters
6347.....3-7/8" round bolsters
6392.....4" square bolsters (not made currently)
6375.....4-1/4" square bolsters

There are others but those are some of the major variations
 
knifeaholic said:
Case Stockman Sizes:

6327....2-3/4" round bolsters
6333....2-5/8" square bolsters
63087...3-1/4" round bolsters
6344....3-1/4" square bolsters
6318....3-1/2" round bolsters
63032...3-1/2" square bolsters
6347.....3-7/8" round bolsters
6392.....4" square bolsters (not made currently)
6375.....4-1/4" square bolsters

There are others but those are some of the major variations
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That's a good reference. Thanks! :thumbup:

I'll also submit the TB6139/6339/6539 (Case Tony Bose 1/3/5 blade Sowbelly Stockman) at 3-7/8", w/round bolsters.

There's also the older 'Case Classic' 6340 (Jumbo Stockman), 4-3/8", w/round bolsters.
 
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knifeaholic said:
Case Stockman Sizes:

6327....2-3/4" round bolsters
6333....2-5/8" square bolsters
63087...3-1/4" round bolsters
6344....3-1/4" square bolsters
6318....3-1/2" round bolsters
63032...3-1/2" square bolsters
6347.....3-7/8" round bolsters
6392.....4" square bolsters (not made currently)
6375.....4-1/4" square bolsters

There are others but those are some of the major variations
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To these can also be added:

63090.....3 3/8" round bolsters, straight equal end
63046.....3 5/8" round bolsters, humpback equal end

Though technically both of these are cattle knives, not stockman patterns, both are always called medium stockman or stockman by Case and their dealers.
 
Thanks for the responses guys, and for clearing up my confusion a bit. I was beginning to think that the orange stag-handled Stockman that I bought a couple of years back was advertised wrong or something.

I still really love the color and wish that I could still find that in CV. Maybe in a Large model? I've been looking, but no luck.

My grandfather is very, very happy with the knife that I gave him.

He ended up giving me two of his older knives today including the one that he carried for years and years-his old Schrade Stockman!!!

He also gave me an old Buck 303. I was very happy with that. I didnt ask for these, but he was very appreciative and he only carries around one knife at a time and has his many special hunting knives. So, he's really happy.

Thanks again.
 
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