Cattaraugus 225 Q

IVANKERLEY

IVANKERLEY

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anybody in here collect them, scored one off fleabay got my fingers and toes crossed:D my ebay freeze lasted 7 months, i really dont enjoy it, had a few knives that were a little disappointing.:mad:
Anyway from the looks of it and reading around the net these knives are tanks:thumbup: and definitely look better than the reissue from ontario a few years back...
1095 steel
leather handle
heavy steel hammer/pommel
leather sheath
and $32 bucks compared to the $70+ stainless reissue
whats not to love!
i dont have many sheath knives so this is a new area for me
what do you guys think of them? ive read a few people thought they were tough knives but ugly. Anyone still use one?
personally i loved the look of it, to me maybe better than the kabar.
post pictures when i get 'em
cheers
ivan
 
Ivan, I think you may get more responses and traffic on this topic in the "General" knife forum due to the numbers of these knives out there.
 
I picked up one about 2 years ago, needed some cleaning and it's good to go.

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Pretty tough one!
 
a couple weeks ago i actually came across your thread and it added fuel to the fire, so i got you to blame for this:D
excellent knife ya got just hope mine is as solid
cheers
ivan
 
i finally got mine, nice solid chunk of steel, its in surprisingly good shape the leather handle is solid the blade didnt have any real deep gouges or grinder marks, sheath is in excellent shape albeit a little stiff. Awesome knife, already had the thing on my hip this past weekend:thumbup: sharpens up really well too. I dont own the repro so a comparison isnt possible, but personally id rather have a beat up one of these than the 440 stainless reissue.
Not too shabby for 32 bucks:thumbup: keep my eyes peeled for others!
cheers
ivan

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an ad i found on another forum
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Bear claw - what did you do (work & materials) to clean yours up so well? I have one I'm looking at & contemplating a project . . .

It's not in "collectible" shape, so it'll be a good user, once I make a sheath.

thx - cpr
 
orca8589 said:
Bear claw - what did you do (work & materials) to clean yours up so well?
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1000 grit sandpaper and a LOT of elbow grease for the metal, to get teh rust off.

Then polished it with flitz.

The handle I smoothed out a little with 1000 grit sand paper and then cleaned it off, then heated the leather washers with a hot air dryer and started smearing on Sno-Seal (beeswax) and letting it soak it up, let it cool and repeated until the leather washers were back tight and solid.
 
Bearclaw - hanks for the info; I'll post pics of mine once I'm done with it. (probably August)

thx - cpr
 
Hi Ivan. They are very good working knives. I have several of them. A firm called Allied sells sheaths for them on Ebay. I also did a side by side comparison of one of them next to the Ontario wannabe elsewhere in Bladeforums. Suffice to say that the Ontario knife may have been given the same name, but it is only a pale shadow of the real thing. The Ontario knife may be stainless, but it is much flimsier. Here are some photos.

Ontario on the left, genuine article on the right
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The Allied sheath
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It should be noted Case also made a very similar knife (identical appearing blade) under the same US Army contract. Some like the handle of the Case better, but they are both very good knives (and apparently beyond the skill level of today's manufacturers to reintroduce).
 
superc said:
It should be noted Case also made a very similar knife (identical appearing blade) under the same US Army contract. Some like the handle of the Case better, but they are both very good knives (and apparently beyond the skill level of today's manufacturers to reintroduce).
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Thanks, in researching the Catt225Q (before i pulled the trigger) i read your reviews it actually changed my mind as i was seriously considering the Ontario. As has been said if ontario wouldve stayed closer to the original even with the stainless i think i may have bought one but once i started researching and comparing the knives there was no question, sometimes the old, used knife is the better value. The newer Ontaio would make a nice display knife perhaps but i would rather have the older, less refined, rough around the edges piece. Its got alot of character which the newer one will never have. Thanks for the comparison.
cheers
ivan
 
This is my Cattaraugus 225 Quartermaster which i got for free when i bought another knife.
This one was missing a piece from it's tip, had no edge to speak of, and the handle also looked like somebody had tried to saw it in half.
So i made it into a little project.

The leather handle is now coated with a few thin layers of Snoseal and the hammerhead was sanded and polished.
The sabergrind blade was transformed into a hollow grind using a Tormek machine, while the edge itself now has a microbevel of 40 degrees.
It will treetop hair without any problems.

I'm not sure though if i'm going to make a swedge on it or turn it into a nice drop-point.










 
cool mods on your knife! The "looks someone tried sawing it in half" could that have been the rough marks that are on all 225Q? It was a manufacturing flaw, when the knife was having the pommel added... on all unless it was fixed/rehandled later...

For me i just sharpen it up, use it and preserve it as best i can :)
cheers
ivan
 
My Ontario sits in a living room drawer for those (very/ultra) rare occasions when a knife bigger than the one in my pocket is needed in the living room. A Cattaraugus accompanied my while bush hogging with the tractor today.
 
superc said:
My Ontario sits in a living room drawer for those (very/ultra) rare occasions when a knife bigger than the one in my pocket is needed in the living room. A Cattaraugus accompanied my while bush hogging with the tractor today.
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best testimonial ive read all day:thumbup: puts things in perspective
cheers
ivan
 
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