Review CH Knives CH3001, a surprise! Picture added

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So while looking for a ball bearing knife to test and torture to confront my prejudice against ball bearing knives, I came across the CH CH3001. This knife arrived a few days ago and it is being carried along with a Harnds Talisman as my foray into ball bearing pivot knives.

This is a titanium frame lock knife with ball bearings, stainless steel insert on the lock bar to engage the blade lock surface as well and also functions as a lock over travel stop when unlocking. The blade is a full flat grind with D2 steel. It is a flipper with pretty good action out of the box. The pocket clip is also made from titanium. The titanium parts of the knife can be purchased with purple, green, or blue anodizing, or just natural.

The blade sticks out the 4-1/8" (103mm) handle by 3-3/8" (85mm), more or less. The blade overall shape is straight back with a bit if a drop. Actual cutting length is around 3-1/4" (80mm). The blade stock is around 1/8" (3mm). The whole knife weighs around 3oz (86g).

The first impression out of the box was that it was fragile. Everything feels so light and almost delicate thanks to the titanium and fairly light detent. It flipped out easily but seemed a bit slow. I only own three other flippers, a ZT0566, Kershaw Cryo II (POS!) and the Harnds Talisman. They all fire with some force needed. The CH3001 seemed too easy and sloppy to open at first. My opinion has changed.

The handle is comfortable and fits my XL hands very well, and even the hands of the size S hands of my wife. This is a great handle design. It is also very slim and very pocketable. There are no hot spots for me but my wife thought the pocket clip was a bit bothersome. Overall the ergonomics are very good.

The blade was paper push cut sharp out of the box, but a bit toothy. I touched it up to my liking and from that process it feels like the D2 of my Ontario Rat1 D2 as far as sharpening goes. The blade design is clean and has no thumb studs, which I am realizing that I prefer after carrying the Talisman and this knife for a bit now.

The pocket clip is nothing to write home about, but it is nothing to complain about neither. The great thing is that it is NOT polished and shiny. It is a nice matte color to match the handle color. The blue version means that it disappears in my blue jeans and draws no attention. It is sufficiently deep tip up carry, and retains well but not too grippy.

The pivot came greased with some unknown type of thick grease. Of course this was not for me so I took it apart and cleaned and oiled sparingly with Nano-Oil 85, both the bearings and the detent ball. WOW! It now falls closed under gravity only, and flies open now with almost no effort. It does not open without intent though.

How does this compare? Well, compared to the Rat 1, it carries almost the same length of cutting edge with a huge difference in size and weight. Against the ZT0566, almost the same cutting edge, MUCH lighter, and as fast to open even against the assisted ZT. Another way to look at this knife; It is basically the same size in the pocket as the Delica 4 or smaller and almost the same weight. The cutting edge though is something like 30% longer! IMHO (yeah right me humble) it is also more comfortable in hand than the Delica 4, which is a real accomplishment. This and all for around $60 USD shipped to your door.

What is not to like....... ??? No idea at this point.

Conclusion: For a $60ish USD knife, this is a knife to consider for a light and sheeple friendly EDC that is probably also capable of some more HD use. It carries in the pocket like a Rat 2 or Delica 4 but carries a capable blade with a size closer to a PM2 or Rat 1. It is elegant enough that it won't embarrass you in a family setting but it appears it will also stand up to more HD uses. The build quality is beyond anything else I have seen at this price range. The final verdict will be dependent on how well the edge stands up according to its claimed D2 composition and how well the ball bearings against titanium works. Buy one.

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I like mine so much I purchased another! Here is a comparison to two of the most popular knives on the market. Notice again that it has more cutting edge than the PM2 but basically in the overall size of the Delica.
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OK, here is your request. I still have found nothing to not like about this knife. I am still pushing it harder so we will see.
 
Welcome to CH knives! I've been kinda watching them for a while. They appear to be original designs and well made. Here's my experience from top to bottom.

My first was the 3001 you're posting about. It was a well made knife but I hated the flipper tab. In my opinion the detent was a little weak, but the knife showed a lot of promise. Pocket clip kinda sucked though...

Next I picked up the 3501 and this model was an improvement. The F/F was a little better and it flipped a little better, although the detent was still a little weak for my tastes. Pocket clip still sucked...

This brand makes no high-fallutin claims for materials: simple TC4 titanium and D2 steel. Preliminary use, magnetic and SpGr testing seem to bear that out.

Then I saw the 3504 Small Flipper and was mightily impressed! Excellent flipper, excellent F/F and a milled clip! All for a $50 price tag, mind you. The blade is stamped with AUS8 and I'm fairly sure it 8Cr13MoV, but who's to quibble!

The CH 3504 is a great little knife and I highly recommend it! With any new Player from Asia I'm wary to make sure they're not an active counterfeiter/cloner. The jury is still out on CH, so I endorse with a great big flashing CAUTION!

Sorry for the hair on the 3504 blade, it was a little oily and I'd just gotten done shaving my cat!

I'm slammed with work these days but I hope to find time to break it down and check out the innards!
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Damn! That 3504 is amsweet looking knife Hack!
Love what they've done with that clip!
How's the action?

And now for the really serious question........you really shaved your cat?? And your cat let you perform this dastardly deed???
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I have a CH3504 full size in S35VN on the way. There will be a review about that in a tread about that model specifically. I wanted to try the CH3504 mini but I have enough AUS8 right now.

Everyone has their own tastes, but I fine the pocket clip on the CH3001 totally adequate. The detent strength can be improved by taking the knife apart and bending the lock bar a bit more. I did that to mine and it improved it. The flipper tab is again a matter of taste I think.

Comparing the CH3001, you have to admit that it is very light and still very capable.
 
After a bit of time using the CH3001, what would I change? I think it could benefit quite a bit from some Spyderco type fine gimping on the back of the blade up until where the flat grind starts. I would be quite happy to spend a premium to get a better steel, like S35VN or M390. That's it.

I am still deciding on whether ball bearing knives are durable enough for my uses, and even importantly, whether ball bearings against titanium is a smart idea.
 
How many models does CH have now ?
3001
3002
3504 Large
3504 Small
3503
3501



Can anyone list the others?
 
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The 3504 series has different handle designs, plus there is the 3507 which looks very nice too in M390.
 
I gotta say, those are some pretty darn good looking knives. If only they had A LITTLE F-ING LEFTY SUPPORT.
 
I wonder if left handed people are shunned in China like they were in the 60s and earlier in western culture. I know there are some Chinese made knives that are left handed friendly but they seem to be only the clones or "tributes" to western models.

I, as a right handed person, would still like the option of left hand carry too.
 
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