Chad Los Banos design.

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Chad Los Banos has created something amazing in his Subcom folder in my opinion.

I am an inventor and designer and I wanted to give you some of my thoughts after examining this knife for several days.

For a survival knife, it would be perfect because of one of it's greatest features, it's small enough to carry EVERY time you go out to do anything.

That means this knife could be with you when ever you need it, for any number of circumstances.

The ease of holding this knife is perfect I think. The blade shape is such that it could be used for almost anything I can think of.

The thickness of handles are perfect for every day carry. Even my wife said she wanted one for her purse. :rolleyes:

Well......as soon as she saw it, she said it would fit so well in her purse. I said it would also fit in my pocket, survival kit, and fishing gear. :cool:

It really is a great design, on an easy to carry knife with big potential.

Once in a while, a knife just gets my attention......this one did.


Robbie Roberson. ;)
 
Nice review Robbie specially coming from a knife designer who can appreciate something a little different and somewhat special....Chad has a winning, innovative design in this Subcom and the demand for them all over the world seems to be great...BTW My wife is carrying one in her purse....the women seem to know when they spot a good thing;) They picked us didn't they!....Doc:D
 
Robbie Roberson said:
Chad Los Banos has created something amazing in his Subcom folder in my opinion.

I am an inventor and designer and I wanted to give you some of my thoughts after examining this knife for several days.

For a survival knife, it would be perfect because of one of it's greatest features, it's small enough to carry EVERY time you go out to do anything.

That means this knife could be with you when ever you need it, for any number of circumstances.

The ease of holding this knife is perfect I think. The blade shape is such that it could be used for almost anything I can think of.

The thickness of handles are perfect for every day carry. Even my wife said she wanted one for her purse. :rolleyes:

Well......as soon as she saw it, she said it would fit so well in her purse. I said it would also fit in my pocket, survival kit, and fishing gear. :cool:

It really is a great design, on an easy to carry knife with big potential.

Once in a while, a knife just gets my attention......this one did.


Robbie Roberson. ;)

Aloha Robbie,

My goodness my friend and fellow brother...there was NO need to do a totally new thread!!! I am still curious as to which version of the SF you received?

On the topic of survival, you thought this from the get go, and I know many folks who, in SD "survival", find it the "invisible lil' BIG wound maker".:rolleyes: In terms of survival the way you described, I know of some fellows in the UK who carry their SF in their ritter survival kits.:thumbup:

Well, regardless of which version you received, you have my thanks and I don't quite know what to say...I mean, you ARE the Inventor of the SOG Revolver after all. So to get good feedback from you...I am speechless.:eek:

Mahalo much sir.

God bless you and yours and continued success,
Chad:o
 
Zip said:
Nice review Robbie specially coming from a knife designer who can appreciate something a little different and somewhat special....Chad has a winning, innovative design in this Subcom and the demand for them all over the world seems to be great...BTW My wife is carrying one in her purse....the women seem to know when they spot a good thing;) They picked us didn't they!....Doc:D

Aloha SSifu,

Mahalo to you, oh immortal one! My question to you is, how MANY women picked you over the centuries?:p

I am blessed regarding the SF model...through this lil' bugger, I have been able to meet a great deal of only the nicest people. It was this model, that enabled me to meet Mr. Roberson...well, that and a Higher calling.;)

God bless you SSifu:thumbup:
 
Daywalker said:
Aloha SSifu,

Mahalo to you, oh immortal one! My question to you is, how MANY women picked you over the centuries?:p

I am blessed regarding the SF model...through this lil' bugger, I have been able to meet a great deal of only the nicest people. It was this model, that enabled me to meet Mr. Roberson...well, that and a Higher calling.;)

God bless you SSifu:thumbup:

You know how many knives he's got;) Just imagine how big his harem has been over the centuries:cool:
 
My pal Chad, I got the black one.................SLOBBER........:eek: you guys are not going to believe this one.

This knife can be opened really fast by gripping both thumb studs between with thumb and index finger, (tight grip) and flick whole knife body downward.

This is easily done because the weight of the knife pops the knife open and your index and thumb are already in a great position on the blade after opening.......it doesn't take much, just a quick pop downward and it's open.

Robbie Roberson
 
My pal Chad, I got the black one.................SLOBBER........:eek: you guys are not going to believe this one.

This knife can be opened really fast by gripping both thumb studs between with thumb and index finger, (tight grip) and flick whole knife body downward.

This is easily done because the weight of the knife pops the knife open and your index and thumb are already in a great position on the blade after opening.......it doesn't take much, just a quick pop downward and it's open.

Robbie Roberson

Sounds like a Spyder drop to me:cool:

Doc, how many ways did you figure out to open the Subcom again? Was it 11?
 
It really is like that, but I would call it the Subcom drop.......:rolleyes:


It really is a cool knife, the more I look at it the more I like it.


Robbie Roberson ;)
 
Aloha Robbie and Scott,

Sheesh...mahalo much guys...I dunno what to say to all this due to the fact that the Nyquil is kicking in!:yawn:

Thanks for confirming Robbie...so the "Black Beauty", eh? It is gorgeous...and thanks for doing the SubDrop!:rolleyes: :D (Remember, sweet spot is closest my logo!:thumbup: )

God bless you both and do take care:thumbup:
 
Hey, I was pretty close:cool:

When do we get a tutorial on all those openings Doc?:thumbup:

Here ya go Scott:

I have found 13 different methods for opening the Subcom F into various knife grip positions. If you try to use the thumb stud by pressing it lightly with your thumb towards the middle of the stud you might find it difficult to open this knife, however there are many fast ways to open this knife which I will now discuss in detail. As a side note people often make the mistake of trying to rotate a thumb stud in an arcing motion to open the blade, this is the wrong way to open such a knife. It should always be done with a straight line type push instead. Think linear not circular when using a thumb stud to open a knife. The described openings below are for right handed persons with the clothing clip attached for a blade tip up carry position. Left handed persons can also apply most of these same techniques by flipping the knife over so the visible frame lock faces towards them.
1) The blade opens very well with a Kelly McCann-style "marble shooting" opening. This is accomplished with a quick, snappy flick of the thumb forward against the tip of the thumb stud, near the designer’s (Chad Los Banos) logo. The technique resembles shooting a marble that sits on top of the forefinger and is flicked with the thumb, which some of you will remember from playing marbles is called fulking. The knife then may be griped in the hammer, sabre or the underhand grip after the opening.
2) Chad Los Banos made me aware of what he refers to as a sweet spot on the thumb stud which can be found on the tip edge of the thumb stud near his logo. Applying pressure with your thumb at this point allows for an easier opening of the blade.
3) A fast and easy way to open the Subcom F is to force your thumb nail down to the blade at the sweet spot between the thumb stud and handle and push the stud in a straight line forward to open. This is one of my favorite opening techniques for this knife and it is very quick.
4) With the black G-10 handle side facing upwards try pinching both the top and bottom studs at the same time between the index finger and thumb and then push on the clothing clip backwards with your middle finger towards your palm as you push the top thumb stud forward to open.
5) Spyderco knife fans will love this one. Grasp the two studs between the index finger pad and thumb pad in the tip up blade position with the butt end of the knife facing upwards. A quick snap of the wrist downwards will open the blade as the weight of the handle swings downward. Spyderco lovers will recognize the technique commonly called the “spyder- drop”. Readjust the handle in the hand for a hammer or sabre grip.
6) Inertia openings are possible with a lot of practice. Most people will have trouble overcoming the spring tension to accomplish this type of opening with any small knife. However if you like opening a knife this way you can cheat a little by pushing both the under stud and top stud just a little, enough to overcome the tension of the spring and then flip your wrist and knife upwards or flip the wrist and knife over (palm facing upwards) for the inertia opening. With practice an inertia opening can done without cheating. This can be accomplished by grasping the G-10 handle in the middle with your thumb and placing the index finger on the back of the clothing clip. Hold it firmly between the fingers, with the blade spine facing downwards, and your palm also facing down. Snap the wrist downwards hard and fast to overcome the spring tension. Once the blade swings partially open you can either flip the knife upwards to open or flip the wrist over into a palm up position to snap the blade into place. You can also do the inertia opening in ice pick grip. Hold the Subcom F tip up, place your thumb high up on the clothing clip and grasp the black G-10 handle side by pressing it against the side of your index finger. Snap your wrist and hand downwards sharply and stop abruptly. The blade should swing open and lock in place.
7) Try this for a quick opening into the scalpel grip (the index finger pressed alongside the top spine of the blade). Hold the Subcom F sideways with the butt end facing to the left. Have the black G-10 handle side facing upwards. Place the right thumb directly over the top of the O nut of the pivot pin and place your middle finger on the middle of the clothing clip on the metal side and hook the stud (on the bottom metal side) with your index finger. Pull to the right drawing the spine of the blade and point towards the webbing of your hand between the thumb and index finger. Once the blade snaps open move your middle finger into the finger choil and pull inwards and down as the knife handle rotates into the palm. Place your index finger along the top portion of the spine. Although this may sound complicated, it is really easy to do once you get the hang of it.
8) Another opening you can use for scalpel grip is to hold the Subcom F by grasping both studs with the index finger and thumb (tang facing upwards). Push backwards on the side edge of the clip with your middle finger directing it towards the palm. Then use the index finger to hook the bottom stud and pull straight upwards until the knife clicks open and place the middle finger into the finger choil and the index finger into the scalpel grip position described earlier.
9) If you favor the ice pick grip/pikal (blade facing outwards) place your thumb on the middle of the clothing clip with the metal side of the Subcom F facing you, with the butt of the Subcom F facing upwards and index finger on the black G-10 side of the handle. Use your middle finger to push downward on the edge of the stud to open. Readjust your hand position to hold the handle in the ice pick grip. If you reverse the knife position so that you now place your thumb on the G-10 handle and the studs face back towards the palm you can use the same technique to open the Subcom F into reverse ice pick /reverse pikal (blade facing inwards). Just a word of caution when pushing the thumb stud in this direction the blade tip will pass closely to your palm, be careful not to let the tip of the blade come in contact with the palm. If this method is not to your liking you can open the knife with the first method and then roll the knife handle in your palm towards your thumb into the reverse ice pick grip.
10) If you want to open the Subcom F and have it ready to go into action but hidden from view try this technique. Do the exact same technique as described in the first part of technique #9 except use your ring finger instead of the middle finger to open the knife. You will notice that the knife now sits nestled into the hollow of the palm. Place your index finger around and over the top of the butt jimping and hold your hand down at your side palm facing backwards and the Subcom F disappears from frontal view.
11) Here’s a unique opening and interesting grip position you may want to try. To use the Subcom F in a push dagger grip hold the knife so that the top portion of the handle sits on the palm so you can see the knife spine and tip (blade tip points towards you). Place the thumb over the O nut of the pivot pin. Using your middle finger nail hook the stud on the metal side and lift it towards the front to open as you apply pressure to the side of the knife with your thumb. Next wrap your middle finger into the finger choil and place the index finger on the left side of the handle and grasp the rest of the knife handle into the palm forming a fist. The blade will now extend outwards from between the index and middle fingers. Now the Subcom F can be used to thrust with like a push dagger.
12) Two Handed Openings: This type of opening may seem very obvious to most knife handlers but I thought I would mention them anyway. There is absolutely nothing wrong with opening a knife with two hands when time permits. They are simple methods that anyone who has ever owned a pocket knife will be familiar with. Use the left hand fingers to grab the studs on the Subcom F and while the right hand holds the handle in place the left hand will open the blade. This technique is good for hammer or sabre grip positions.
13) You can also grab the Subcom F by the studs with the left hand fingers and use the right hand to open the handle as the left hand keeps the blade stationary until the blade locks into place. This technique is good for ice pick/pikal grip position.
As you can see there are many ways to practice opening the Subcom F, making opening this knife very fast, functional and fun. Once the Subcom F is already in the open position it is very easy to change from one grip position to another. I recommend you place a small piece of fine grit tape (3M-Outdoor Thread Tape) on the clothing clip so that it will help facilitate changes in grip position while providing a gripping surface for the finger tips. It should also be noted that most of these Subcom F opening techniques will work even if you’re wearing cold weather leather gloves. ....Doc;) :D

reprinted in part from original review by Sifu Dr. Jan Miller called the "Subcom F Review"
 
Scott: Sometimes I get yelled at by the wife when I go shopping and get bored and pull out a Subcom and go thru its openings and closings fast like.... as I walk around...LOL...Doc:D
 
Thanks for the little review. I love my little "Biscuits". They are so comfortable and sheeple friendly, yet the blade, with its generous belly, adds a lot of cutting power to such a diminutive knife. Now and then a revolutionary knife appears and I'm blessed that in this particular case the designer is a close personal friend of mine :D
 
Thanks Doc, I forgot you had printed that in your review ages ago.:thumbup:

Off to practice:cool:

Hiya Scott,

Just wanted to say that your avatar made my day!!! Thanks for the coffee I just spit on my monitor.:p

God bless and thanks bro:thumbup:
 
Here ya go Scott:

I have found 13 different methods for opening the Subcom F into various knife grip positions. If you try to use the thumb stud by pressing it lightly with your thumb towards the middle of the stud you might find it difficult to open this knife, however there are many fast ways to open this knife which I will now discuss in detail. As a side note people often make the mistake of trying to rotate a thumb stud in an arcing motion to open the blade, this is the wrong way to open such a knife. It should always be done with a straight line type push instead. Think linear not circular when using a thumb stud to open a knife. The described openings below are for right handed persons with the clothing clip attached for a blade tip up carry position. Left handed persons can also apply most of these same techniques by flipping the knife over so the visible frame lock faces towards them.
1) The blade opens very well with a Kelly McCann-style "marble shooting" opening. This is accomplished with a quick, snappy flick of the thumb forward against the tip of the thumb stud, near the designer’s (Chad Los Banos) logo. The technique resembles shooting a marble that sits on top of the forefinger and is flicked with the thumb, which some of you will remember from playing marbles is called fulking. The knife then may be griped in the hammer, sabre or the underhand grip after the opening.
2) Chad Los Banos made me aware of what he refers to as a sweet spot on the thumb stud which can be found on the tip edge of the thumb stud near his logo. Applying pressure with your thumb at this point allows for an easier opening of the blade.
3) A fast and easy way to open the Subcom F is to force your thumb nail down to the blade at the sweet spot between the thumb stud and handle and push the stud in a straight line forward to open. This is one of my favorite opening techniques for this knife and it is very quick.
4) With the black G-10 handle side facing upwards try pinching both the top and bottom studs at the same time between the index finger and thumb and then push on the clothing clip backwards with your middle finger towards your palm as you push the top thumb stud forward to open.
5) Spyderco knife fans will love this one. Grasp the two studs between the index finger pad and thumb pad in the tip up blade position with the butt end of the knife facing upwards. A quick snap of the wrist downwards will open the blade as the weight of the handle swings downward. Spyderco lovers will recognize the technique commonly called the “spyder- drop”. Readjust the handle in the hand for a hammer or sabre grip.
6) Inertia openings are possible with a lot of practice. Most people will have trouble overcoming the spring tension to accomplish this type of opening with any small knife. However if you like opening a knife this way you can cheat a little by pushing both the under stud and top stud just a little, enough to overcome the tension of the spring and then flip your wrist and knife upwards or flip the wrist and knife over (palm facing upwards) for the inertia opening. With practice an inertia opening can done without cheating. This can be accomplished by grasping the G-10 handle in the middle with your thumb and placing the index finger on the back of the clothing clip. Hold it firmly between the fingers, with the blade spine facing downwards, and your palm also facing down. Snap the wrist downwards hard and fast to overcome the spring tension. Once the blade swings partially open you can either flip the knife upwards to open or flip the wrist over into a palm up position to snap the blade into place. You can also do the inertia opening in ice pick grip. Hold the Subcom F tip up, place your thumb high up on the clothing clip and grasp the black G-10 handle side by pressing it against the side of your index finger. Snap your wrist and hand downwards sharply and stop abruptly. The blade should swing open and lock in place.
7) Try this for a quick opening into the scalpel grip (the index finger pressed alongside the top spine of the blade). Hold the Subcom F sideways with the butt end facing to the left. Have the black G-10 handle side facing upwards. Place the right thumb directly over the top of the O nut of the pivot pin and place your middle finger on the middle of the clothing clip on the metal side and hook the stud (on the bottom metal side) with your index finger. Pull to the right drawing the spine of the blade and point towards the webbing of your hand between the thumb and index finger. Once the blade snaps open move your middle finger into the finger choil and pull inwards and down as the knife handle rotates into the palm. Place your index finger along the top portion of the spine. Although this may sound complicated, it is really easy to do once you get the hang of it.
8) Another opening you can use for scalpel grip is to hold the Subcom F by grasping both studs with the index finger and thumb (tang facing upwards). Push backwards on the side edge of the clip with your middle finger directing it towards the palm. Then use the index finger to hook the bottom stud and pull straight upwards until the knife clicks open and place the middle finger into the finger choil and the index finger into the scalpel grip position described earlier.
9) If you favor the ice pick grip/pikal (blade facing outwards) place your thumb on the middle of the clothing clip with the metal side of the Subcom F facing you, with the butt of the Subcom F facing upwards and index finger on the black G-10 side of the handle. Use your middle finger to push downward on the edge of the stud to open. Readjust your hand position to hold the handle in the ice pick grip. If you reverse the knife position so that you now place your thumb on the G-10 handle and the studs face back towards the palm you can use the same technique to open the Subcom F into reverse ice pick /reverse pikal (blade facing inwards). Just a word of caution when pushing the thumb stud in this direction the blade tip will pass closely to your palm, be careful not to let the tip of the blade come in contact with the palm. If this method is not to your liking you can open the knife with the first method and then roll the knife handle in your palm towards your thumb into the reverse ice pick grip.
10) If you want to open the Subcom F and have it ready to go into action but hidden from view try this technique. Do the exact same technique as described in the first part of technique #9 except use your ring finger instead of the middle finger to open the knife. You will notice that the knife now sits nestled into the hollow of the palm. Place your index finger around and over the top of the butt jimping and hold your hand down at your side palm facing backwards and the Subcom F disappears from frontal view.
11) Here’s a unique opening and interesting grip position you may want to try. To use the Subcom F in a push dagger grip hold the knife so that the top portion of the handle sits on the palm so you can see the knife spine and tip (blade tip points towards you). Place the thumb over the O nut of the pivot pin. Using your middle finger nail hook the stud on the metal side and lift it towards the front to open as you apply pressure to the side of the knife with your thumb. Next wrap your middle finger into the finger choil and place the index finger on the left side of the handle and grasp the rest of the knife handle into the palm forming a fist. The blade will now extend outwards from between the index and middle fingers. Now the Subcom F can be used to thrust with like a push dagger.
12) Two Handed Openings: This type of opening may seem very obvious to most knife handlers but I thought I would mention them anyway. There is absolutely nothing wrong with opening a knife with two hands when time permits. They are simple methods that anyone who has ever owned a pocket knife will be familiar with. Use the left hand fingers to grab the studs on the Subcom F and while the right hand holds the handle in place the left hand will open the blade. This technique is good for hammer or sabre grip positions.
13) You can also grab the Subcom F by the studs with the left hand fingers and use the right hand to open the handle as the left hand keeps the blade stationary until the blade locks into place. This technique is good for ice pick/pikal grip position.
As you can see there are many ways to practice opening the Subcom F, making opening this knife very fast, functional and fun. Once the Subcom F is already in the open position it is very easy to change from one grip position to another. I recommend you place a small piece of fine grit tape (3M-Outdoor Thread Tape) on the clothing clip so that it will help facilitate changes in grip position while providing a gripping surface for the finger tips. It should also be noted that most of these Subcom F opening techniques will work even if you’re wearing cold weather leather gloves. ....Doc;) :D

reprinted in part from original review by Sifu Dr. Jan Miller called the "Subcom F Review"



SSifu...all I can say is, "Thank You."

God bless:thumbup:
 
Scott: Sometimes I get yelled at by the wife when I go shopping and get bored and pull out a Subcom and go thru its openings and closings fast like.... as I walk around...LOL...Doc:D

Aloha SSifu,

Good thing you're speed is beyond that of mortals...otherwise I am sure your wife would not be the only one yelling!:eek: :D

Just behave young man, and don't do any mischief with your gift of speed...like making the folks in the grocery store wonder how the hell the apples are "slicing themselves" as you walk by!:p

God bless and take care:thumbup:
 
Thanks for the little review. I love my little "Biscuits". They are so comfortable and sheeple friendly, yet the blade, with its generous belly, adds a lot of cutting power to such a diminutive knife. Now and then a revolutionary knife appears and I'm blessed that in this particular case the designer is a close personal friend of mine :D

Aloha Knifebrother Dialex...

*sigh*...WaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaY too much credit bro. However, I must say that I am blessed in knowing you BUT I can also say that I got a revolutionary knife in the form of a silver CF Spyderco Adventura MADE by the designer himself who ALSO is a close personal friend of (.)(.)...I mean, mine!:p

God bless you and yours bro:thumbup:
 
It really is like that, but I would call it the Subcom drop.......:rolleyes:


It really is a cool knife, the more I look at it the more I like it.


Robbie Roberson ;)

By the speed and authority in which it drops open, it should be called the Pineapple Drop. :D

Next to Tang, there is no other fruit that has more authority. :eek:
 
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