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Yangdu

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Dear Yangdu didi,



Regarding for this Chackram order,

There are six verities design order one in Brass and other all are in steel ring.

For Brass ring chackram thickness is 1mm which is available, we should make it.

These steel ring thickness varies from 1mm to 3mm difficult to find these thickness metal-steel here (I am not talk about white metal steel).we should not make it by raw steel because kamis do not able to maintain the same thickness around all over the ring area by hand.

Option should we go for Brass I think able to find above thickness in Brass?



Thank you,

Rajesh

Copy of email from shop manager Rajesh, feel free to post any suggestions.
Thank you
 
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Rajesh and Yangdu,

Thank you for trying to make so many different things for us.
I think it is ok to make the chakram imperfectly. It does not have to be a perfect thickness. They spin in the air, so little differences won't matter at the slow speeds we will be throwing.
Also, the steel can be relatively soft, not as hard as a knife. If it is too hard, it will break.
I would be happy with a chakram that had a brass inner ring and a steel outer edge.
That would be good.
Iron is also ok for me.
And, it does not need to be sharpened like a knife. We can sharpen them if we want to.
I would like one that is about 8" in diameter.
 
I'm just interested to see how these things turn out:) I love watching the process:thumbup:
 
Hm, 3mm is only about 1/8". I also agree that they don't have to be perfect. Hand forged should be fine. Historical chakrams would have been hand forged and slightly imperfect.
 
Some India brass is way too brittle for longevity so assuming Nepali brass is similar methinks it would be as bad. A softer steel would be the best all around material IMHO as any dents could be softly tapped out.
Again IMHO iron would also be too brittle unless it was ductile iron and it may be to difficult too tell the difference.....



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I also thought that steel would be the best solution for this type of knife. I would assume that steel similar to that found in the khuk's would suffice as it is a milder steel with a variable hardness to the blade. Would this make it so that the chakram would absorb the impact better (being more pliable to the impact itself so that it would give with the forces of the impact?). Also I would expect that one would like the actual edge to harder than the inside ring (might be a good arguement for Danny's suggestion of a brass inner ring with a steel outer edge).

Ultimately I would love to see one that has a steel ring with some brass overlay onto it but that is just eye candy (decorative details). :) I do thank you for taking on such a difficult project. Once I get some money up (once I get back to work in other words) I hope to be able to actually order an HI Chakram with brass overlays in it.

Much thanks and many blessings to Yangdu and the kamis!

Jack
 
Again IMHO iron would also be too brittle unless it was ductile iron and it may be to difficult too tell the difference.....
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Actually, I think ductile cast iron might be the most historically correct. Something designed to be thrown wouldn't have been made out of steel, as cheap steel didn't come about until the industrial revolution.

Westerners tend to think of cast iron as the brittle, gray stuff like pig iron, but IIRC, the Chinese and Indians were making ductile cast iron with blast furnaces as early as 500 BC. They never really messed with the bloomery method, which requires about 10 or 20 times as much work, but was the sole method of iron production in Europe until the late 15th century!

Of course, steel is what the kamis are most familiar with, and hand-forged steel with a soft temper would certainly work.
 
I'd go with steel,a bit soft so you can sharpen it easy enough and take out an dents from use.

Razor sharp frisbees? geeze what's next? :D
 
Thank you all for your kind suggestions
 
Aunty, is there still a future for an HI Chakram? Just thought I would check into it as it has been a while since any discussion has been done on this subject.

Yours,
Jack
 
Jarts?
DannyinJapan said:
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Just add some tail fins and voila. :D
(apologies all around)
 
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