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Chaves Redención 228
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Charr
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Had one, and I just didn't like it really. I tried, but there were a lot of small things that added up to it just not being for me:
1. Blade geometry. I've handled and used a custom Redencion, and while they are chunky, they cut very well for how thick the blade starts. The 228 unfortunately did not live up to that legacy. The edge was much too thick, and not very sharp out of the box. The hollow grind was not done well enought to offer good cutting, and that was the first really big let-down.
2. Fit and Finish. The knife had sharp edges along the frame, especially in the relief for your finger to disengage the lock. The blade was also not ground 100% straight when I looked it over, so that even with the knife perfectly adjusted, the blade was dangerous close to rubbing the Ti. The blade was not very good for deployment because of the adjustments that had to be made because of this. The jimping was irregularly sharp, though not to an extreme degree. One of two of the cuts would be smoother, with one being much sharper. The lockbar also had rough Ti from where it had been cut and was not completely finished properly.
3. Action/pivot build. The pivot is supported by very small, narrow-radiused bearings, that hug very closely to the pivot, allowing for more play in the blade than is necessary or reasonable to me for a knife that touts "strength". In a addition, the knife has a pretty small pivot really when you compare it to the size and bul of the knife.
4. Pocket clip. Thie could be F&F, but deserves it's own line. When I returned the knife, I was asked if I had carried it, which I found funny. I would have loved to carry the knife (until I looked and found the other issues), but the pocket clip was so incredibly stiff it was impossible to do so. I had it with me on the day I got it, and that was it. Never had a chance to carry it again.
5. Lockbar Strength/Lockup. The lockup itself was a good engagement, but the lockbar was so strong that I could never comfortably disengage the lockbar (the sharp corner of the lockbar added to this issue a lot), and after trying to open and close the knife a few times, I noticed the lock was getting more and more sticky, until it was no longer possible to disengage the knife normally.
Initially, I tried to sell my Redencion as well when I just decided I didn't want to keep it, but then when I really started looking and saw how many problems it had, I decided I couldn't, in good concience, pass those problems on to another member here, and returned the knife.
For the money, it was a pretty big dissappointment for me, especially since I can get a Sebenza for that money, and virtually guarantee that none of these issues will be present in that knife at all.
Also, I am not knicking the knife. My personal example had these problems, and I cannot say that they are common, nor that they are present in all of them by any means. I am simply offering my experience to give reference and for more information to be available. And, if these problems, or even one or two of them, are common, it would likely explain why the knives are not being kept very often...
1. Blade geometry. I've handled and used a custom Redencion, and while they are chunky, they cut very well for how thick the blade starts. The 228 unfortunately did not live up to that legacy. The edge was much too thick, and not very sharp out of the box. The hollow grind was not done well enought to offer good cutting, and that was the first really big let-down.
2. Fit and Finish. The knife had sharp edges along the frame, especially in the relief for your finger to disengage the lock. The blade was also not ground 100% straight when I looked it over, so that even with the knife perfectly adjusted, the blade was dangerous close to rubbing the Ti. The blade was not very good for deployment because of the adjustments that had to be made because of this. The jimping was irregularly sharp, though not to an extreme degree. One of two of the cuts would be smoother, with one being much sharper. The lockbar also had rough Ti from where it had been cut and was not completely finished properly.
3. Action/pivot build. The pivot is supported by very small, narrow-radiused bearings, that hug very closely to the pivot, allowing for more play in the blade than is necessary or reasonable to me for a knife that touts "strength". In a addition, the knife has a pretty small pivot really when you compare it to the size and bul of the knife.
4. Pocket clip. Thie could be F&F, but deserves it's own line. When I returned the knife, I was asked if I had carried it, which I found funny. I would have loved to carry the knife (until I looked and found the other issues), but the pocket clip was so incredibly stiff it was impossible to do so. I had it with me on the day I got it, and that was it. Never had a chance to carry it again.
5. Lockbar Strength/Lockup. The lockup itself was a good engagement, but the lockbar was so strong that I could never comfortably disengage the lockbar (the sharp corner of the lockbar added to this issue a lot), and after trying to open and close the knife a few times, I noticed the lock was getting more and more sticky, until it was no longer possible to disengage the knife normally.
Initially, I tried to sell my Redencion as well when I just decided I didn't want to keep it, but then when I really started looking and saw how many problems it had, I decided I couldn't, in good concience, pass those problems on to another member here, and returned the knife.
For the money, it was a pretty big dissappointment for me, especially since I can get a Sebenza for that money, and virtually guarantee that none of these issues will be present in that knife at all.
Also, I am not knicking the knife. My personal example had these problems, and I cannot say that they are common, nor that they are present in all of them by any means. I am simply offering my experience to give reference and for more information to be available. And, if these problems, or even one or two of them, are common, it would likely explain why the knives are not being kept very often...
