Chavez 228 on Wicked Edge

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Climbmnts

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Hi all, new to the forum and first post. Quite frankly, I was surprised that I was not registered here, as I have gleaned a lot of awesome info from this forum over the years.

Question: I recently acquired a Wicked Edge Pro 2 and was wondering if anyone had some 'tried and true' settings for the Chavez 228 on it.

Thanks in advance for any help.....
 
Hey! Welcome 😊

You will have to sharpen it in two steps, like a tanto. Do the main edge first then the tip. Use an angle cube to verify the angle. If I remember the edge angle is 31 dps on the main edge and around 35-36 dps at the tip.
 
Hey Thanks for responding. Yea, that what I was afraid of. I was hoping it could be a one set deal. Its taking some time to build up the confidence to tackle my beloved 228..... "dps" is that "degrees per side" ? 31-36 seems like a lot or am I reading wrong? BTW thanks for your videos. I have watch a lot of them on youtube but yours have really pushed my learning curve with this thing. You have a gift for teaching.....

Thanks again
Max
 
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No problem bud! Yes, that stands for degrees per side. It is an extremely thick angle that will not cut well no matter what you do to it, unless you reprofile to something more reasonable like 15 or 20 dps, however, if you do that your edge bevel will be quite wide and it will take a long time to do on the WEPS. The "problem" on this knife is that it has such a steep curve in the belly it causes issues.

I just finished this one up cerakoting it and then sharpening - that's how I know the angles hehe.

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razor-edge-knives said:
No problem bud! Yes, that stands for degrees per side. It is an extremely thick angle that will not cut well no matter what you do to it, unless you reprofile to something more reasonable like 15 or 20 dps, however, if you do that your edge bevel will be quite wide and it will take a long time to do on the WEPS. The "problem" on this knife is that it has such a steep curve in the belly it causes issues.

I just finished this one up cerakoting it and then sharpening - that's how I know the angles hehe.

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Wow Dude! That is some fine work. Love that color! Yea, its not my intention to make this thing a slicer but having said that, the edge that came on it is nothing to write home about. I will take your advise and again I'm grateful!. At the risk of being a PIA, is there much of a problem blending those two different bevels where they meet.
 
Climbmnts said:
At the risk of being a PIA, is there much of a problem blending those two different bevels where they meet.
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You may notice a slight change but nothing noticeable if you are setting your grind direction all going the same...
 
razor-edge-knives said:
You may notice a slight change but nothing noticeable if you are setting your grind direction all going the same...
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Oh btw did you move the knife position or just change the angles? Also I'm assuming straight section 1st, then blend the tip?

~Max
President & Product Design
MaxairEngineering.com
 
Climbmnts said:
Oh btw did you move the knife position or just change the angles? Also I'm assuming straight section 1st, then blend the tip?

~Max
President & Product Design
MaxairEngineering.com
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I moved the position and tilted the handle down, tip up ;)
 
Roger that. Hopefully a few more knives done and I'll build up the confidence to to tackle the 228.

Thanks again!
~Max
President & Product Design
MaxairEngineering.com
 
Ok finally felt confident enough to tackle it.

Settings on WEP:

Flat edge:

  • Sitting on pins top position
  • Angle 23 Deg per side (not why I'm so different from your numbers here?)
  • Position B

Then as you can see in the picture the front belly:

  • Sitting bottom pin at rear and top pin on front
  • Angle 32 Deg per side (Maxed out adjustment)
  • Position A-1/2 (Plumb down from Tip)

The edge along the flat came out razor sharp. The front belly to tip not so much. Also the transition could be better. That said, it is sharper than when I received it and I have a baseline to go by. Most of all I didn't screw it up..... Any thoughts are more than welcome.......

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Thanks again!
~Max
 
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Followup to previous post:

Well I went back over the belly & tip again and feel much better about it, and the transition point. At 31 DPS (62 Degs inclusive) the Belly & tip shaves hair now. I'm thinking that's about the best you can expect from that angle. The 'repeatablity' of my setup was spot on for the belly/tip. I was pleased as hell about that....Pics below.

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bodog said:
Wow, 35 dps at the tip? How thick is it behind the edge?
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Im not sure but the straight section is a hollow grind that is actually thinner than one would expect. The tip transisons to a flat grind from the 3/16 inch spine. I think folks call this a "modified tanto" or "spanto" . I really like it. I see it as being a decent cutter on the hollow grind with a bomber tip befitting an "over-built" knife like this.

If slicing is your priority, this would probably not be the blade geometry to choose. That said, I think I'd have to work pretty hard to ever break this ones tip. The tip shaves hair, but is not a paper slicer like the hollow grind section....
 
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