Cheap flashlights?

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I've been going through a time of my life where I've become very skeptical as well as even more cynical. I suspect alot of things of being not very good or just another consumer rip-off. One of these is flashlights.

Now I like new and better things just as much as the next guy. But don't rip me off with something that is just another "better mousetrap". I've been plying with flashlights for a while now. The ones out now are a huge step up from the stuff I remeber as a kid. A flashlight used to be something that lived up to its name. First you tried to turn it on with the switch, and when that failed, you shook it. This resulted in a dim yellow light that started to dim after just a few minutes. Those old mercury batteries did not hang around real long. Alkalines were a big step up.

The flashlight was usually a dented up tube of some sort of tinny metal, and corroded at the drop of a hat from leaking mercury batteries.

Now we have pretty neat looking knurled aluminum and damm near indestrctable plastics. The old incandesent bulb is going the way of the do-do bird with the new LED stuff taking over. I've got a little AAA Dorcy pocket LED that to an old fart from the '40s like me is a wonder.

But I still wonder if its really worth what some of these guys are paying? I have two mini-mags I've put the nite-eyz conversion into and I've been happy with them. Every night when I take Pearl the wonder corgi for her last walk before bed, I use the led converted AA minimags to light the path in the woods, and it does a good job. A nice soft white flood of light, and the battery life has been great. When a set of AA batteries in the regular minimag is to dim and just a yellow glow, I put them in the converted led minimag and it lights great.

But I still have my doubts. About two months ago I was going through the kitchen junk drawer and found the old flashlight I used to carry. Its a cheap yellow plastic AA light from Rayovac, regular old style bulb. I think you can still get one from Walmart for 4 or 5 dollars. Just for yucks I put a couple new AA energisiers in it and went to walk the dog. I also had my led minimag.

It was enlightning. It was a great light. I had forgoten I'd got used to the lack of throw with the led. The white flood lit the trail but that was it. This cheap plastic flashlight with the old bulb was a light saber in comparison. For about 20 minutes the dog and I wandered around and I would switch lights and I just may put the old light back into use. The batteries may not have the run time, but I could throw a nice tight spot through the woods for easily three times the distance of the led light.

But more than that, it worked great for how old it was and what a beating it had taken in its life. Before I bought my first minimag in the mid 80's, this was my "go to" light. It fit in a jacket pocket, and it had been knocked around on countless camping trips with my kids, dropped in the bottom of the boat and kicked around night fishing with my son on the river when he was growing up, tossed onto the floor of my truck, and countless other abuses. Its easily taken over twenty years of heavy use. Still works great.

And then I read about some of the younger guys having problems with expencive new lights. Is any pocket AA or AAA light really worth 40-50 dollars? What are you getting for that amount of money? Heck, the little AAA Dorcy has taken a beating over the past year and still works great. For 4.95 its a hard to beat bargin.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything, but I just look at that beat up old yellow plastic flashlight and wonder about the new stuff. Midjets post is just one instance of this kind of stuff. My son had the same thing happen to him-he bought an expencive LED flashlight at Target, an Inova I think, and it was less than what he thought it should be. He was helping me fix my bathroom ceiling fan and it slipped out of his hand and dropped to the foor. That was it, kaput. The aluminum case was deeply dented near the head, and the light was finished. I think he paid something like 30 dollars for that thing. I know that old Rayovac had got dropped lots of times with no ill effects.

I know that some of these high tech flashlights have thier place. I'm sure police officers and Navy Seals have more strict requirments. But I wonder if the averidge joe is just as well served by a cheap plastic flashlight that costs a few bucks, and spend the extra dollars on a nice gun or car.
 
I don't know - any time I ever dropped one of those old, cheap lightweight flashlights, while the body didn't suffer any functional damage, a light drop sure as heck killed the bulb in the darned thing.
I bought a fenix lp1t that uses a single AA battery. Seems to last a lot longer on the single AA than the rayovacs did on two D cells. Also seems to be a lot brighter than the cheap two D cell lights were. I haven't dropped it, though, and the only problem I've found with it is that it's often TOO bright!
I'll tell you what, though. I got a free bonus from the vendor, a small led keychain light that uses one of those coin shaped 2015 batteries. The vendor also sells those for 99 cents. I've used it more often then the fenix, becauase when you don't need a lot of light it's actually more usable. And being as it's on my keychain, it's survived quite a few drops.
Another downside of those old cheapo rayovac type lights - put a pair of batteries in it and leave it in a drawer somewhere for 6 months. Anyone I've ever known that's done that has had a dead flashlight when they really needed one. The new (admittedly more expensive) aluminum lights that use cr123 batteries don't seem to have that problem and still work when you need them.
 
I hear ya on the skeptical part jackknife. :)

There are tons of toys out these days some of which cost more than they are worth IMO , look on this particular forum long enough and you'll find plenty of those but , if you gots the money and feel like blowing it then that's what these toys are for.
I call them toysbecause none of us really need most of them. I mean who needs 25 different LED flashlights , or 40 odd different knives ?
My Grandpa's both had maybe three flashlights bewtween both of them and a handful of knives which saw years of love and use , this for sure ain't the good ol' days :)

That said , there are a lot of good LED's that are very affordable and if you dont mind making the Chi-coms a bit richer then you'll do fine.
River Rock makes some dandy little lights and they are cheap. Steamlight makes some nice ones too that are wallet friendly.
The Nite eyez mini mag conversion is only good as far as battery longevity IMO , the light output is pure crap. I have a little single AAA Chi-com twister about 2 inches long that put out more light.
jerrinfla was right though on the breakage part , I mean anything can break if abused , accident enough but those old style bulbs are far more prone to breakage than an LED.
 
Most of the "good" Dorcy lights (1-3 watt) are made in Taiwan, not the commie Chinese mainland. Not sure on specific cheap models.

It's not fair to compare a 1aaa mini LED to a 2D incandescent.

Try one of these at least:
http://www.brightguy.com/detail.php?Sku=DOR410443
Not quite as bright, but it can run more than a whole day straight. Very handy for power outages or extended work in dark areas.

Or if you still want impressive brightness, try any of the 1 or 3-watt models.
 
I've read some blasphemy here!!!

You're forgetting the age old axiom: HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST TOYS WINS!!!

Now get out there and spend, spend spend...................
 
just depends on what ya want it for, some lights i want max brightness and some i want long batt life, if i could have only one flashlight it would be a surefire E2e with a KL1 head, plenty bright for a non-weapon light, good batt life, will last forever imho, if a $6 flashlight will work for ya thats great, but it wont work for what i use them for.

for a cheap light the 4 or 5 "C" cell maglites arent bad, i never use a mini mag anymore, just not bright enough for what i need a light for.
 
To me $40.00 was worth it for my arc aaa. It stays on my keychain so anytime I'm wearing pants I have a light available. I feed it with lithium bats and get 5 hours of suprisingly bright light (a little blue but I don't mind). Before I broke down and bought the arc I carried a m*glite solitaire for about 15 years. The output was pathetic and the life was short. The arc sold me on the benifits of LED tech, I have since aquired LED's suited for my hobbies. A pelican dive light that out last my old sabre light by about 3 times, and a pentagon l2 for fire calls. There is something to be said for a light that fits in my pocket and both outshines and out last the old mag 3d.
But what do I know, nothing works for every situation.
 
I've been impressed with the Superfire/Ultrafire line of Chi-com lights. My main lights are Surefire's but the clones for 1/2 the price seem well worth it.

OT, when I was a kid my grandfather had an array of flashlights. The one tha amazed me was a lantern that used a big rectangular battery and had a retractable red beacon. Remember those?!

http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/
 
I carry two flashlights.

First, a Mini Maglite with an LED conversion.
It gives me soft, true light and the batteries and the LED's last forever.

Secondly, I carry a Streamlight TL-3 with a Xenon bulb, which cost less than $50 delivered.
The Streamlight TL-3 represents the most impressive flashlight I have ever owned, and, as an EMS helicopter pilot, I have experimented with quite a few flashlights.

The Streamlight TL-3 reaches out significantly further than my six D-cell Maglite, with better light, and it will plain flat blind anyone in whose face I shine it, even in broad daylight.
Expensive, short-lived batteries.
I get about an hour out of the batteries, but then, I get about three months out of that hour.

http://www.brightguy.com/detail_int.php?Sku=STR88103

I got mine from Amazon for less than $50.
 
I hear what you're saying. For years I used a mini mag( starting in '82 ?). It took me down the Yukon river,on a hundred pre dawn walks to my tree stands and saw use in plenty of house fires.

It worked, it did its job I never once felt under powered .

Now at work i wear a Fenix lp2 and off the job carry a Surefire e2e .

Today I view my lights as more of a safety device . I want to make sure drivers see me on the side of the road, I want to light up the whole yard when I hear a voice or noise outside . I'll gladly pay for that.
 
only because a friend's aunt works for Surefire and he gave it to me for my birthday. Before that I was carrying a Dorcy Metal Gear that cost me $18 and a 2AA, 1.5W River Rock that cost $20. I still have the RR in my bag and just gave the Dorcy to a buddy while camping. The 2AAA, .5W $10 RR was bright enough for my wife to find her way from the fire to the tent but I don't think I'd want it as my only light.

Twenty bucks seems to be the breaking point for me. At that price point Dorcy, River Rock, Brinkman, Inova, Princeton-Tek and Mag-lite all make a fine EDC light. Not the end all be all uber flashlight of the apocolypse but a good light for the average joe to use on a day to day basis. YMMV

Frank
 
Two brands that make great "cheap" flashlights are Dorcy and Rock River. I own models from both and I very impressed. Plus most of them use common batteries. Target or Walmart should have a supply of both.
 
Rock Rivers are actually made by Nuwai.

Flashlights don't have to be expensive, but you shouldn't buy cheap junk either. Like any tool, cheap stuff will fall apart and fail, which means you'll end up rebuying it and it's no longer "cheap".

Buy quality, and you'll know it'll work when you need it to, and in the case of flashlights, when you need it to work, you really do need it to work. You're not just buying quality, you're buying peace of mind.

You don't have to have a top of the line Surefire to have a quality flashlight (although it can't hurt). A Surefire G2 or Streamlight Propoly (w/lithiums) makes a great trunk light that you know won't have dead, leaky batteries.
 
Streamlights, Taclights and that whole genre of handhelds are very cool, and have the awesome candle power.
For general use, and value for the dollar, it's still tough to beat the good old mini-mag light, at $9.oo , they are still a bargain for an all aluminum housing.

They have an LED kit for them now, too.

I'd like to see a retro-fit kit for them, using [2] lithium 3v batteries and an upgraded Xenon type of bulb.
 
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