cheapest damacus available?

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I'm looking for the least expensive DECENT damascus knife available. So far the least expensive I've seen comes from the Kershaw Kai series, which runs under 80 on ebay. I am wondering if there are any less expensive, but good, knives that I might be missing.
I need to buy them for my groomsmen at my upcoming wedding.
Also, they don't have to be limited to kitchen knives, either.
thanks for reading.
 
I always thought the Bear stuff wasn't too bad for their price.
 
Do you mean the Bear folks who make the balisongs? If yes, we have heard of some delamination problems, but I haven't experienced it first hand. And, this may have been on their earlier product.
 
Bear damascus looks very crude to me, like a piece of beat raw iron:

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Kershaw may very well be the best value. If their damascus is as well made as their knives, it should be pretty good stuff.
 
Don't let the brand confuse you. Neither the damascus nor the knives are made by Kershaw. They are exported from Japan to the U.S. by Kai, Kershaw's parent company and distributed here by Kershaw. Neither Kai nor Kershaw have any involvement in their manufacture. The knives, however, are very nice.
 
besides looking pretty wut are the advantages of damascus?? i heard its stronger...however, doesnt folding steel compromise the steel's structural integrity? can someone please explain. :confused: thanks.
 
Bardock,

In the case of the kitchen knives made with the sanwich of forge welded stainless around the VG-10 core like the Shun, the purpose is purely cosmetic. It doesn't hurt the performance of the knife. The VG-10 core does the cutting. Think of it as similar to the traditional Japanese kitchen knives made using kasumi construction, where the hagane is forge welded to a piece of soft steel or iron.

Some knife blades are made entirely of damascus. The performance of these blades is dependent on the types of steel used in the blades and the way in which they are forge welded. Some damascus blades are purely for appearance while some perform quite well. Some forge weld carbon steel and some other metal such as nickel together to make a very high contrast and spectacular product. These don't perform well. Others will forge weld two high performance carbon steels together and, while they don't look as exotic, they do perform well. It is, however, not reliable to try to judge the performance of a damascus blade by its appearance.

Thanks for the update on the Chrysanthemum.

Yes, Chuck, I was referring to the Shun classic series. Kai and Kershaw represent the distribution channel. Similar knives have the Kasumi brand on them and somewhat better ones are made by Hattori with their name on them. I see Al Mar is importing some as well. They appear to have the same steel as the Shun but handles and bolsters similar to Hattori. This type of knife is red hot in the kitchen cutlery industry at the moment. It helps explain how Japanese kitchen cutlery enjoyed a 300% sales increase last year while the European end of the business had a sales decrease.
 
The Bear MGC damascus used to be, and I think still is, the same as the Parker damascus, which *I think* is the Fain Edwards (Fain-Edwards?) damscus, 5160 and 1018, at something like 150 layers (depending on the thickness).

Some of it is quite pretty, but (like any damascus, IMHO) it certainly pays to try to see the exact pieces you're buying so you can choose on pattern.

I've owned several pieces and have not had any delamination problems, although I have seen a pre-Bear, Parker piece with tip delam.
 
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