Cherokee Rose - Getting Reaquainted with an Old Friend

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I was doing some cleaning and reorganizing the other day in my room. (Don't tell anybody - I have a reputation to uphold here.) I almost look forward to these cleanings because of all the great stuff I find. Granted, it's stuff that I've already purchased and owned, but when something's missing for a month or two you can forget that you had it and finding it again is almost like winning a prize.

The Cherokee Rose hadn't been lost...not really. It was hanging up, in the back, under the UBE, behind a sword or two, in the corner that I hang things in when I'm not planning on using them. If someone had asked me where I'd put it I probably would've remembered but if the same person had asked me when I'd last cut something with it I would've had a hard time answering - February, I think. Or was it January? I don't remember.

I felt bad for the thing. It had been a great knife, well designed, well executed, but it hadn't been what I'd needed. After spiffing up the handle, bluing the blade, and doing a little cutting with it it had basically been retired, superceded by swords, a BGRS and a FF. I figured that I ought to do a bit of cutting with it while I was thinking about it but I'd need to work on it first.

It was dull; it had been sitting for the better part of a year unoiled. The last time I'd sharpened it had been before I'd owned the belt sander so I'd have to do her up right. I didn't like that bluing anymore, either - I like my women just fine without makeup and I prefer my knives the same way. The bluing would have to go, and since I was probably going to have to sand it off, why not go ahead and try a hybrid polish on it?

The bluing was a PITA to remove. The hybrid polish wore me out. I wound up quitting at #1000 and just proceeding straight to the etch, and forget about using vinegar - it got the PCB etchant, just like all of my other blades do. Some more polishing, some more etching, some more sanding. My "get it ready for tomorrow" job turned into several days. This morning, the Rose was sharpened on a belt sander for the first time. She was looking real good.

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I performed some "dry firing" drills. Blade heavy but fairly neutral, solid, more maneuverable than I remembered. That last time we'd cut together I'd nicked myself a few times and our performance on the recyclables hadn't been particularly noteworthy. My arm has trained quite a bit since then. Was I that much stronger now? Or was the Rose finally a willing partner?

We went out back and I decided to skip the recyclables. That mooring line was still hanging out there and I had yet to sever it with a single swing from anything yet - even the Everest Katana needed two swings to get all the way through. I had a feeling that today was my day.

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I cut that rope all right. Not just once, either. About every other time I went straight through with the Rose. When I didn't make it all the way through the second cut invariably did the job because I was striking exactly in the same spot as the first cut.

Thwack.

I eventually got tired of going back up on the deck every few swings to let down more rope. I guess I need more practice with that katana, huh?

Things like this get me to thinking sometimes. What changed here? I always liked the Rose but I never really wanted to use it for anything - there was always something else more appropriate, I wasn't any good with it, etc. Always an excuse to use something else, even if it was just recreational cutting. Perhaps there's a minimal skill level required before a larger Bowie feels correct; perhaps my arm needed to be stronger. This one always had an attitude...maybe the Rose didn't want me at first. Was I not ready for the Rose or was the Rose not ready for me? I may never know. I suppose that we get along just fine now.

In the meantime, I've got the best damned Bowie in the neighborhood and a lot of little pieces of mooring line in my backyard. Back off, fellas...I saw her first. :)
 
Satori said:
Things like this get me to thinking sometimes. What changed here? I always liked the Rose but I never really wanted to use it for anything - there was always something else more appropriate, I wasn't any good with it, etc. Always an excuse to use something else, even if it was just recreational cutting. Perhaps there's a minimal skill level required before a larger Bowie feels correct; perhaps my arm needed to be stronger.

I'm thinking at least partially this... My first (the 20" WWII) gave me some doubts for a while and it took a little reinforcement from the Cantinistas before I decided not to resell it. I don't know when, but sometime during six weeks or so of using it to warm up before working out with the others, it's moved up to be one of my favorites. There is a definite difference in my musculalture and range of motion from before I started working out with the khuks and now starting with the swords...

Satori said:
This one always had an attitude...maybe the Rose didn't want me at first. Was I not ready for the Rose or was the Rose not ready for me? I may never know. I suppose that we get along just fine now.
:)

Could also be the time you put in with it? Growing to love one another?

Satori said:
Back off, fellas...I saw her first.
:D

Where did you come up with the rope idea?
 
The Rose was designed to be more of a fighter than a utility chopper, plus swords are usually preferred over large knives in combat use, so its not too surprising that its gone unused. I'm sure all of us here have items in our collections that don't see much use.

Experience using your various khukuris is probably why you're more proficient with the Rose. You're more in tune with how a knife of its size, balance, and weight should be used for best (or at least better) results. Just my 2 cents.

Bob
 
Big Bob said:
The Rose was designed to be more of a fighter than a utility chopper,

Bob

Yup.;) :D I'm glad you found the Rose's niche Dave.:thumbup: :D :cool:
Bowies will always have a dear spot close to my heart no matter how much I love the khukuri. Indeed they are both different knives designed to do both different and similar things.
A couple of more inches on the Rose's balde length and she would've qualified for a short sword.;)
 
man i want one of those. in horn!

as soon as i'm out of my financial difficulties i plan to get right back into them !! (financial difficulties that is!)
 
The Rose is a special blade. A throwback to days gone by. Romantic and razor sharp. Actually, of all my weapons grade knives, if i had to fight with one the Rose would be it. I kinda suck with a sword as much as I love my HI kat. My 25" kobra is overly forward heavy. As soon as I get some free time and hopefully a belt sander my Rose is going to get a trip to Steely's Day Spa.

Jake
 
Special blade, indeed. It says something for the designer of this wonder (and the artist that brought it to life for me) that it took me this long to figure it out. The Rose still has things to teach me, I think.

SASSAS, I didn't get the idea for the rope, it got the idea for me. We were cleaning out the Camp recently and there was a good length of used (but nicely) nylon mooring line piled up in a corner. "Throw it out," the bossman said. What's the difference whether it gets thrown out in their trashcan or thrown out in mine? ;)

I've never cut rope. I figured that this would be a good place to start. If I can cut tight, dirty mooring line hanging freely, I reckon that I can cut damned near anything. It's a challenge, that's for sure. That mooring line is going to make me better.

Bob, Yvsa, Jake - you're all correct.

Dave, I want one in horn (gray horn, that is) also.

Me likey, finally. And now that me likey, me likey a lot. I'm having a difficult time putting it down. :)
 
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