Chet and the Rough Riders.

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Remington once did a survey on pocket knives, and they came to the conclusion the the average life of a pocket knife was something like two years. They must have known my friend Chet.

Chet is a bit of a strange fellow in his own right, but in a good way. He sometimes thinks outside the box, and comes up with some innovative thoughts. One of his loves is flint knapping, of which he's given me some lessons, and caused me to rethink some things. But his use of a pocketknife is the stuff nightmares are made of. Scraping, prying, digging, and all sorts of abuse that would send some of the knife obsessed aficionados running off with the screaming meemies.

But to give Chet his due, he doesn't use very expensive knives for his daily cutlery torture. Chet loves Rough Riders. He's been buying them for some years now, and he manages to use one up about every two years. Sometimes a bit less. Chet doesn't like to take a lot of time sharpening them, so the big rough old 'carborunum' stone in his truck will do if he's around his truck. If he's not, the side of a brick building, the cement step of a building will do. Needless to say, Chet's knives all have a very toothy edge to the blade. Mayb that's what Chet is used to.

He makes the most beautiful snapping I've seen. Using flint, and sometimes pitch black obsidian, he flakes out and edge with w piece of deer antler quick and easy as some of us touch up an edge with a Arkansas stone. He has bolo ties with obsidian arrow points, and a sheathed knife in a very neat little discreet little pouch on his belt with a small flint blade in it. About a two inch blade, it looks much like Otzi's knife but prettier. Chet put some work into the polish of the wood handle and gray flint blade blade. On our Friday morning breakfasts, it's custom to pass around any new knives we've got, for chicken eyeing and coon fingering, and Chet's flint and obsidian blades get coon fingered a lot. But hs Rough Riders get an equal amount of coon fingering.

Over the years we've seen Chet use up a nice RR peanut, a barlow, a largish two blade jack, a granddaddy barlow, and a few others. Rough Rider has always made a pretty decent pocket knife, and getting to examine specimens before Chet goes about using them to destruction, I've formed an opinion that they make a good daily using knife. But, I think they have upped their game over the past year. Some of what I've seen of late, the fit and finish seems to be better. The steel seems to hold up well, and even a destroyer like Chet is happy with them.

Once at a breakfast, Chet was being ribbed a bit about his sharpening techniques. He responded by spearing a nice fat sausage on his fork, holding it up over his plate and using his Rough Rider barlow neatly sliced off the end of it with a slow drawing cut, letting it plop onto his eggs. The sidewalk serrated blade seemed very sharp.

I can only wonder if given equal treatment that we would give a nice Case peanut or trapper, that a Rough Rider would work just as well. I've seen them pass the Chet test.
 
An interesting read, as always Carl :) I've been impressed with all the Rough Riders I've handled, I just wish they'd take a patina! ;) :D :thumbup:
 
This one is a pocket scalpel. As you can see I found out the hard way. Second photo is after three weeks of healing.

I was carving the eye out of a pumpkin and the blade slipped out of the groove in a straight up motion. By the time I knew I was cut a second later it began getting messy. Edge retention is very good for a user! Next to all of my pocket knives its my second sharpest knife next to a Spyderco air in M4 steel.



 
This one is a pocket scalpel. As you can see I found out the hard way. Second photo is after three weeks of healing.

I was carving the eye out of a pumpkin and the blade slipped out of the groove in a straight up motion. By the time I knew I was cut a second later it began getting messy. Edge retention is very good for a user! Next to all of my pocket knives its my second sharpest knife next to a Spyderco air in M4 steel.




Owwww! That had to hurt!!

I've noticed that the RR's do have a steel good enough to take a very fine edge. Like you said, a pocket scalpel.

And that is a nice looking locking barlow.
 
Well the thumb has since healed and the mini Barlow has seen regular use. Its a lock back so I trust it for light uses to not fold back on me. Its latest chore has been to cut and scrape off plastic drywall anchors off drill bits while prepping a bedroom wall to get filled in and sanded before painting as the wife said she needed a change in that room after 7 years of the same color.




And the wife said I could choose the new color of our "animal room" where we keep our pet reptiles.

 
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Sorry for being off-topic, but that is a beautiful carpet you have there. Cheynei ?

But yes, the RR knives seem to be very good for the money. I gave an electricians knife to a friend a few weeks ago. I honestly couldn't find a fault on this 13€ knife.
Sharp, even grinds, spring gaps, blade centering, everything. Impressive, really impressive.
 
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Thanks CBecker! She's a 9 foot jungle carpet python. About as big as they get. I've had her since she was a foot and a half long.

Some folks don't like RR for being an import but in terms of use I think they are grand knives. What Schrade was to normal every day folks. Just really solid inexpensive users that people go out and use!

The brand has really endeared themselves to me. As through bf, I've progressively acquired more and more expensive knives. Knives that could potentially be hard use, but its the good cheapie knives like the RR's that I find myself actually using hard more often than not!

I had this really pretty northwoods presidential for a little while I couldn't get myself to use it it was just too nice.
 
I've had a couple RRs' Carl and as you've observed they are excellent little knives for not much £££. I do with they'd make some traditional patterns with carbon or cv blades though, just cause i'm old fashioned.
 
Some people live a life of blissful ignorance. We, on the other hand, obsess over the latest models, steel types, and handle materials. I admire the person who can pick up a knife and use/sharpen it without a care. I am trying to do that with my Case Jackknife in CV. Just use it and not worry. We'll see how long that lasts. I am that way with cars. I just drive them without concern for looks or styling. As long as it starts, drives, and stops I don't care what it is or who made it.
 
RR knives come sharper out of the box that ANY knife I own. IF I need a really sharp knife I always go for a RR.
The edge is very toothy but if you smooth them out, they cut more.

Best regards

Robin
 
I just picked up a new weekend carry Gent's knife. But now that it's Monday and we're all back on the grind. I put this one back in my pocket. RR half whittler. Currently one of my favorite patterns. The opening on the main bladeis about a 9. I need to hit the joint with some teflon lube!

 
If I had stumbled across RR before I sated my knife appetite with enough Case knives to last me forever, I'd probably have picked up a few. Might have saved me quite a few dollars. However, I'm happy with what I have and have plenty in the user category. If it took me 2 years to wear out a knife, then I'll never run out of what I have now.

I'm sure that for my limited uses the Rough Riders would be just fine, and I'd probably never notice the difference, particular since I have a tendency towards using Case's stainless steel knives for my daily carry.
 
I picked up a couple of the scouts a few months back, one in red and the other in amber. They have that old style can opener that used to be found on the old Case scouts that look like a stubby spear with a thumb stud. They also have a very good snap and a surprisingly wicked edge for a can opener. Needless to say, I got bit, and blood went everywhere. If the can opener is that sharp, the regular blades should be scalpels.

I'm up to five RR's now. Three barlows and two scouts, and I have to say they are all scary sharp out of the box. I really like these knives as the fit and finish in a lot of cases seems to be close to what Case puts out. Maybe not as polished, but definitely sharper than the last few Case knives I've purchased. My biggest complaint on RR is a couple have some tight springs and the walk on a couple of blades is pretty rough even after copious oiling and working the blade.
 
The blade stock and grind really do matter when it comes to sharpness. For the RR's I usually start on a medium norton stone and then switch to a fine Arkansas stone, then to a leather strop. I never spend more than a few minutes on them either. This weekend I though a dozen plastic anchor bolts that got stuck on my drill and sharpened a drafting pencil a few times as I was renovating a spare bedroom, and the little mini barlow stayed sharp after that still.

In order of pure sharpness right now my sharpest pocket knives are:

RR Mini Barlow (440a)
Spyderco Air (CPM M4)
Wilson Combat Sebenza (S35V)

I had a German Bull Sodbuster that was really up there in sharpness as well, but I gave it away to a forum member who gave it away to another BF member so I can't compare it right now. Goes to show how traditionals can hang with moderns and vice versa in most instances when it comes to slicey-ness! Getting very partial to Wharncliffe's too in terms of EDC users!
 
Just interested due to a previous post about wharncliffe blades and noticed that RR doesn't make one. At least I can't find a RR with a wharncliffe blade (not that I would buy one anyway, just curious).
Rich
 
Another great story! I recently picked up a couple of RR recently. Yellow handle three blade Whittler type. The main blade is more of a sheep foot and the two smaller are pen blades. Between the color, blade shape and cost, they are now my travel knives. They've held up well to use and the ff was good.

Thanks again for another great story!
 
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