Chipped Busse???

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OmegaA

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Hello, guys,
I met with Brendan recently to exchange opinions on knives etc. I showed damage on the blade of my Busse and Brendan suggested that it looked like the blade chipped. Since I have not read anything about chipped Busse before and neither did Brendan, I was wondering, is it actually possible? We took photographs of the damage, but it is quite small, therefore we managed to make only one good shot of it. Could anybody help me to place the photograph of the damage on the web?
I live in Europe and it is not very convenient for me to send it to the USA for repairs. Are there any other options to correct the damage?
Regards,
 
Hi Omega, send me the pic, I'll host it for you. Which knife do you have that is damaged? Its common knowledge that INFI will tend to deform before it chips, an easy test is to run your fingernail from the side of the blade toward he edge. If your nail gets caught then there is a deformation, if not then there is a chip. I've had a lot of Busse knives come through my hands and most simply had the deformations, but I have seen chipped blades. The chipping was rather shallow and easy to sharpen out, which I hope is your case.

Send me an e-mail at armoralleather@armoralleather.com and I'll get that pic up for you.
Dwayne
 
Rolling and flattening of the edge is most common when INFI comes in contact with very hard surfaces but I have managed to create minor chips in the past. I have never had a problem sharpening them out.
 
SpearHead said:
Rolling and flattening of the edge is most common when INFI comes in contact with very hard surfaces but I have managed to create minor chips in the past. I have never had a problem sharpening them out.
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Same experience here. The chips are very small and sometimes hard to see, but easily repaired. It will take more than a steeling job, though.
 
Hi, all,
There is definitely something when I move my nail on one side of the edge and nothing on the other. It feels as if part of the blade moved to one side, but anyway it looks as if some part of the blade is missing.
MY knife is BA3.
Regards,
 
Heres the pic that was sent to me, its hard to see but they are there, looks like an easy fix on a good hone.
 

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Pretty much looks like what I did to my Buffalo Soldier some time ago, chopping some very hard wood! Took me five minutes with a fine Lansky stone and another ten to give the entire edge a touch up. Can't find the spot anymore!
But the scratch is another story! :eek: :D

Bo Hansen
 
All steels will fracture if push hard enough, INFI just has a large plastic deformation region (this is why it bends so much), and thus will deform a lot before it tears/cracks. Unlike something like ATS-34 at ~60 HRC for example which will have no significant deformation induced before it cracks.

The picture shows sub mm damage which would be barely visible by eye. Unless the knife is going to be used for precision cutting, like wrapping paper and such, I would ignore it. It will go away the next time you actually sharpen the knife. It is a waste of metal otherwise to sharpen it just to remove that small and that isolated a region of imperfection.

-Cliff
 
I, as well as others, have been wondering what it was you were trying to cut/chop/hack/mutilate/slice/dice/make julienne fries out of??

I've hacked into a LOT of stuff, and have yet to come close to that (well there was that pice of 90-yr old steel wire in a tree stump). T'was but a flesh wound...
 
I was chopping quite a hard wood, but I touched concrete I placed the wood on a few times while chopping. I did not find any damage initially even after I washed the knife, only after about 7 days, when I decided to look at the knife again, I found the fault. So, I think it was concrete.
Regards,
 
I've done far worse than that...and have never chipped a busse. It looks like a roll/deformation to me. No worries mate ;) :D
 
He's playing Bingo, man I thought he went down under to see the country

;):p

:D:D

Regarding the "chip" I thought from the topic that it was something to be concerned about. This is so minor I wouldn't have any concern at all with it.

While Busses are extremely tough and durable you can damage them and if you plan to chop more would I'd choose a better platform than concrete.
 
That it happens not right after chopping indicates, that the edge might have been under stress. After work, when the edge is a bit deformed, edges try to get back to original form. This is often seen on razor edges. Too much stress = breaking. Might be a point, but doesn´t have to be.

Another point may be, that it looks like never been resharpend and it is only a weak factory edge that has worn down.

You may ask Jerry about this, just to get him informed. But it should be a single thing, that will go with using and normal resharpening.

Maybe, just if the blade is a bear to sharpen and the little chipps are coming back again pretty soon, you might have a bad blade. But that is much to early to say now. Keep on cutting with the knife and see, how it is going.
 
tommoro i'll post 3 pictures explaining the difference between a dented edge, a mashed edge, and a chipped edge. to qualify as a chipped edge, the metal from the area of damage actually has to be missing, not moved to the side or into the blade (mushrooming/compounding). i happen to have 3 prime examples (though not busse's) for picture taking. i dont think i have any rolled edges at the moment though....

had quite a few dented busse's, but never a chipped one, and i dont expect to ever see one.
 
While we're on this subject, does anyone have advice for a rolled tip? This is the second time I've rolled the tip on my AD. The first time I sharpened it out. Unfortunately this took off mucho steel. It's difficult to steel a tip. Any ideas?

Cheers,
BJB :D
 
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