Chosera 1k or EP 1k?

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I need a higher grit stone to move up to from an Edgepro 400. My goal is to someday own the Chosera 10k with the least amount of stones in between the EP 400 and the Chosera 10k.

So should I start by adding the Edgepro 1k or the Chosera 1K?

Any suggested stone progressions?

I was thinking maybe one of these:
1)EP400----EP1000---Chosera 10k
2)EP400----Chosera 1000---Chosera 5000---Chosera 10000
3)EP400----Chosera 2000---Chosera 10000
4)EP400----EP1000---Chocera 5k----Chosera10k
 
This seems like a good question and I'd also like to hear some answers to it. (Joepa150, sorry I can't help.)
 
If I do a rebevel I go DMT Xcoarse, EP 180, 220, 320, 600, 800, 1000, Chosera 3000, 5000, 10000 then strop with a EP 6000 tape on a glass blank.
The thing is I start getting good polish with the EP 800 and 1000 then when I move to the Chosera 3000 it kinda hazes the finish up. I don't get the mirror back until the Chosera 10000.

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grybsh7 said:
If I do a rebevel I go DMT Xcoarse, EP 180, 220, 320, 600, 800, 1000, Chosera 3000, 5000, 10000 then strop with a EP 6000 tape on a glass blank.
The thing is I start getting good polish with the EP 800 and 1000 then when I move to the Chosera 3000 it kinda hazes the finish up. I don't get the mirror back until the Chosera 10000.

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I just bought a Chosera 5k to follow the EP 1k and I am experiencing the finish becoming hazed like you mentioned.

I know that the Chosera 5k is supposed to be finer than the EP1k but wouldn't taking a somewhat mirror finish (EP1k) and hazing it up would be kind of a step in the wrong direction or a backwards step??

If I had a 10k Chosera, would going from a semi polished EP 1k finish to the 10k Chosera polish it up better than hazing the finish and then going from a haze to a mirror.
 
JP Keep the Chosera 5K and go EP 1000, Chosera 5K and finish with the Chosera 10k.
I know you want to use as few stones as possible, I'm just not sure what kind of results you'd get
jumping from 7 microns (EP1000) to 1.47 microns (Chosera 10,000).
 
I go from an EP 220 to a Chosera 400 (skipping my EP 400)-Chosera 1K-Chos. 2K-Chos. 5K-Chosera 10K-Balsa Strop w/0.5 micron CrO paste. I feel the Chosera 1K is the best all around stone I have, and it's an easy jump from the Chposera 400. The Chs 1K also leaves a superb finish for an EDC edge and cuts fast for it's rating, fast enough to be a great resharpening stone for touch ups. The Chosera 3K seems like a bit of a jump from the 1K, but if you take your time it works excellent. The 5K is bare minimum for going to the 10K IMHO, because you just won't get that perfect mirror without it, and why else would you want the 10K? The CKTG package of five stones is about perfect also, but it has an 800 instead of a 1k.

Bottom Line: Get the Chosera 1k, the 2 or 3K(3k is my choice for mirror)then the 5k then the 10k. It's pricey for all those, but the higher grit chosera's last forever it seems like. Plus the 1K is a great finisher for a nice but toothy edge, and touch ups. I actually use the 1K for touch ups on my edc's. Can't beat 1 stone touch ups.
 
According the EP website, the 400 (previously the 320?) grit EP stone is equivalent to a 2000 grit waterstone, the 600 is 5000 grit, the 1000 is 8000 grit. My experience with the Chosera's supports this perfectly. The EP 600 gives an almost identical scratch pattern to the Chosera 5000, but the Chosera cuts faster. I usually jump from my EP 320 to the Chosera 5000, then the 10000. Stick the EP1000 before the 10000 if its a harder steel. Works well for me.
 
temp9 said:
According the EP website, the 400 (previously the 320?) grit EP stone is equivalent to a 2000 grit waterstone, the 600 is 5000 grit, the 1000 is 8000 grit. My experience with the Chosera's supports this perfectly. The EP 600 gives an almost identical scratch pattern to the Chosera 5000, but the Chosera cuts faster. I usually jump from my EP 320 to the Chosera 5000, then the 10000. Stick the EP1000 before the 10000 if its a harder steel. Works well for me.
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This seems to make sense. I guess I made the mistake of buying the Chosera 5k to follow my EP 1k. I should have purchased a different stone to follow the EP 1k.
 
I have both sets, and this is the very least amount of stones it takes with the Choseras to get a mirror edge:

From the EP 400 you will need:

Chosera 600
" 1000
" 5000
" 10000
 
temp9 said:
According the EP website, the 400 (previously the 320?) grit EP stone is equivalent to a 2000 grit waterstone, the 600 is 5000 grit, the 1000 is 8000 grit. My experience with the Chosera's supports this perfectly. The EP 600 gives an almost identical scratch pattern to the Chosera 5000, but the Chosera cuts faster. I usually jump from my EP 320 to the Chosera 5000, then the 10000. Stick the EP1000 before the 10000 if its a harder steel. Works well for me.
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Your 600 grit EP stone cuts like the Chosera 5k?

Something is seriously wrong with one of those stones then. I have both sets, full. The EP 600 is in no way even close to as fine as the 5k Chosera.
 
CrimsonTideShooter said:
I have both sets, and this is the very least amount of stones it takes with the Choseras to get a mirror edge:

From the EP 400 you will need:

Chosera 600
" 1000
" 5000
" 10000
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I may get the 10k. Could I go from the 1k EP-5kChosera-10k Chosera? I some day get the Chosera 600 to go between my EP 400 and my EP 1k. I don't plan on getting Chosera stone to replace my 1k though.

Also here is a noob questions. If the 5k leaves a hazier/duller looking bevel than the 1k EP stone, how can I tell that the 5k Chosera is a finer stone. Visually I can't. I am not sure I can by cutting with the knife either.
 
peeper said:
id go wtih the Chosera, they last longer.
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Not the 400 and 600. Sure, the high grit stones wear extremely slowly, but that's the nature of most any high grit stone. The 400 and 600 Choseras wear fast. And by fast I mean need flattening after every other knife.
 
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