Chosera 1k vs king 1k

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Slim7

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Hello all,

From what I've researched on the Chosera 1k, and
going to the unified grit charts is that the Chosera stones
are way finer than they are rated at. According to the charts
the Chosera 1k is equivalent to 800grit USA. People claim that a
King 1k is actually lower in grit to what it's rated at, and it gives very frosty/ hazy edge
I don't want a mirror polish but I want a in between refined edge with some bite to it.
Any thoughts?
 
1k stones are 1k stones, the binder, hardness, and abrasive content can make similar stones act very different. The Chosera is not finer, it's smoother, it's scratch pattern is the best you will see of any stone, and it will wear A LOT slower than the king stone.
 
I'm in the camp that if you've got a spare 20 bucks or 20 lying around you should try a king stone . They aren't great at anything but they are good at a lot of things
 
Spartan00 said:
I'm in the camp that if you've got a spare 20 bucks or 20 lying around you should try a king stone . They aren't great at anything but they are good at a lot of things
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The King 1k is actually much better than its given credit for. I keep one in the bucket ready to go for Japanese single bevels and various other carbon steels knives. I don't like it so much on stainless but it works well enough as long as it's not PM steels.
 
I own king and chosera stones. The kings are higher maintenance and have to soak for 10 minutes or so. The chosera stones leave a better looking edge, but for my kitchen knives, the king stones produce the best edge IMO.
 
Jason B. said:
The King 1k is actually much better than its given credit for. I keep one in the bucket ready to go for Japanese single bevels and various other carbon steels knives. I don't like it so much on stainless but it works well enough as long as it's not PM steels.
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+1
some of the best carvers out there (the videos I see the most) use the mythical 1k/6k king stone on carbon steel knives (O1, 5160, 52100 and such) to achieve and amazingly sharp and polish enough edge, maybe not pristine but useable at its maximum.
And besides that, Jason knows his stuff ;)
I personally really like it for scandi grinds
regards
Mateo
 
Jason B. said:
The King 1k is actually much better than its given credit for. I keep one in the bucket ready to go for Japanese single bevels and various other carbon steels knives. I don't like it so much on stainless but it works well enough as long as it's not PM steels.
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I worded that wrong . I meant that while the king may not be the very best 1k stone it is good. Personally I prefer the 800 to the 1k and it lives in water most of them time too.
 
I still have the King 800 and 1200. Good stones used in applications they were meant for. I gave my 1K away some time ago along with the softer 6K.

In your case the Chosera 800 might just be what your looking for. Darn good stone.
 
Jason B. said:
1k stones are 1k stones, the binder, hardness, and abrasive content can make similar stones act very different. The Chosera is not finer, it's smoother, it's scratch pattern is the best you will see of any stone, and it will wear A LOT slower than the king stone.
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So the Chosera 1k will refine the edge/scratch pattern better that the king 1K. Right?
 
Slim7 said:
So the Chosera 1k will refine the edge/scratch pattern better that the king 1K. Right?
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All 1k stones will be within a few microns of each other, the difference between them is not that great. The Choseracwill wear slower, cut faster, and produce a cleaner scratch pattern... Period. You will still have a 1000 grit edge. You want finer or coarser then look to a different grit.
 
I don't have the Chosera, but do have a bunch of "nicer" waterstones. Still, if I know I'm going to be sharpening a bunch of lower end stainless - low RC, or a bunch of plain carbon I'll still toss the King 1k and 6k into the bath sometimes.

They seem to handle this range of steels better than the more expensive stones, a little less QC time. The more expensive stones I find are capable of handling a bigger variety of steel. While I still enjoy using them, and the King 1200 is one of my all time favorites, my Nortons have pretty much taken the place of the Kings in that role.

For the money you cannot beat the King lineup as long as you understand what steels they don't like.
 
The Naniwa Professional (Chosera) leaves a better finish.

It's splash and go. Cuts faster, dish's less and has good feedback for a hard stone.

But its pretty expensive.





I honestly prefer the feel on the King.

It's a soft stone that gives excellent feedback. It's a very fast wearing stone though too. Gets real muddy.

Leaves a hazy finish but can be more forgiving to slight angle and pressure deviations versus a harder stone.

Problem is it doesn't cut high vanadium steels

It's also doest cut stainless steel western knives very fast,

Compared to some more higher end stones

Also be prepared to spend some time keeping it flat, especially if you do a ton of Sharpening.

Those king stone are super cheap too.

You could buy both!

If I only owned fine grained carbon and stainless steels and never sharpend other people's knives I'd stick with the king stones.
 
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