Chris Caracci's Urban Jungle Forum......What happened to it??

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When I visited the forums early today the "Chris Caracci Urban Jungle" forum
as in it's usual lead slot in the "Tatics & Training" section. When I returned
to night it was ..........gone.

I fianlly found it located in the "Archives" section. What happend to cause this forum
to get "parked" there???

Anyone care to comment????
 
i think i, along w/a few other people saw this coming - i hit the prac/tac w/out thinking, used to going to UJ first, then went WTF??

will miss it, CJ designed the AFCK, 1 of my favs

first REKAT, now UJ, hopefully no more go away..........

sifu
 
Originally posted by SIFU1A
...first REKAT, now UJ, hopefully no more go away..........

sifu
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No SIFU1A, FIRST it was Cold Steel, then REKAT, now UJ...:(.
 
<<<< FIRST it was Cold Steel, then REKAT, now UJ....>>>>

I never saw the cold steel forum, i suppose it ws before my time. Does anyone know if it is archived somewhere?
 
Essentially, the parties that started the UJ forum have now parted ways. I've talked with both, and it's clear that while it was fun while it lasted, it would be best to close it down.

Past that, I'd rather not go into any more detail; I respect the wishes of both parties.

Spark
 
If you blinked you missed it. Literally, I think it was here & gone in about a week or less. It was very well received - too well in fact. The pent-up questions & comments completely overwhelmed the resource that the company gave to the forum. They were just not prepared for the response and the interest. I think overtime, the activity would have abated and settled to a manageable level, like the Buck & Spyderco forums. But even there, CJ Buck, Joe Houser, and Spyderco people including Sal Glesser spend a LOT of time in their company forums, so it's a lot of time for a company to invest.
 
I thought you were talking about the Cold Steel forum that they had on their website several years ago. Jeez, what a zoo that was.
 
the cold steel forum...........that was before my time but have heard stories, none good that i remember, heard they had a communication prob lol

so CJ doesnt teach the ATC tommyhawk classes either??

oh well, enjoyed while it lasted, even though was a little too slanted to CJ's views imho,no discussion allowed/encouraged, the right way wrong way and the ....well enuff i guess- not to say his views are'n
t valid

byes to UJ

sifu
 
Actually, I wouldn't compare this to any other forums closing down.

As many of you well know, sometimes, when people explore a partnership in business, they realize as they go that there is a difference of opinion in the way things should be done, even if the goals of both parties are the same in the end. They mutually decide that it is not the right thing, and they part as gentlemen, as professionals -- with no hard feelings. I have many in my own network that I stay in touch with, help out, etc., people with whom I tried a partnership. Many times, external factors and increased committments -- things beyond the parties' control, make it difficult to maintain the time and effort to a new venture. Sometimes the only way to see if the venture will work is to just try, and see if it can fit into the overall schedule, with the foreknowledge that it could go either way. That's what makes a successful entrepreneur. Like Nike, you Just Do It. There is always this "grace period" in a new partnership, and professionals enter it with the idea in mind, knowing ahead that the possibility of it not working out is there.

As you can see by the LACK of public discussion by Andy and CJ, they are both professionals and gentlemen. It is their private business, and any attempts by us to fill in possible scandalous details -- ones that do not exist here -- are a waste of time for all of us. This ain't no soap opera...LOL! Sorry to disappoint you with the boring truth....

I know and talk with both of them, and both have said that everything is settled -- and that is more than I, or any of us, need to know.

It does suck for us in that we don't have the online interaction with CJ, since he does have much real-world experience to share. But in an online forum, it's very difficult to impart real-world knowledge, except in principles and generalities. After awhile, the discourse online when related to tactics can easily turn into useless intellectuallizing - you have to move from writing about stuff to doing stuff to get the answers to the questions. Real-world training can only be experiential - you have to do it to understand it. Know how it feels, sounds, looks, tastes, smells.

All The Best,

Brian.
 
Right on Brian! ;)

Yes, the short of the long is that it just didn't work out and any "behind the scenes" issues need to stay there.

Spark and Brian do indeed know most of the deal, and there really isn't much more to report other than what has been stated.

As I have mentioned in the past, I do and always will, hold a great deal of respect for CJ's talent and ability in his areas of expertise.
 
I greatly appreciate what you, Brian Jones, and Andy have posted. Here's why.

I doubt any forum closing is like any other. From the perspective of us posters, when a forum disappears it leaves may questions that should be answered.

Questions like "Did we do something wrong here?" or "Why did the forum shut down," are naturally occurring questions in events like these. In all business partnerships, and I'm inbcluding running a fum as being a business, the consumers are important stakeholders that ought not be ingnored, whether the business is doing well or not.

Now, my recollection of the closing of the forum may have some holes in it, so I encourage someone to fill me in. But as I saw it, Andy Prisco mentioned that there may be some troubles, then the forum kinda disappeared, and then this thread was started. I think it would have eben best if the forum was left up, for a bit, but locked with a parting message from the partners involved. Brian and Adny are right in that we need not know all of the details. But, we are owed an explanation. That the parties involved got busy with projects and disagree as to how to run the forum is a good enough explanation for me. I just wish it has been given earlier. However, I'm glad it was given now.

Thanks CJ and Andy Prisco for the forum and the time well spent there, and thanks Brian for filling in the gap.
 
If the forum in question has not already been deleted permanently, would it be possible to put it back up as a read-only archive, so forumites could have the benefit of the information imparted there?
 
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