Chris Reeve Sebenza (Regular) Lock Bar Varations (Beveled-Non-Beveled)

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Hey CRK fans!! I am sure this has probably been discussed before but I have not been able to locate any information on this subject. So, I thought I would share this with you in the hopes that other more knowledgeable members of the CRK forum would chime in and educate me and the rest of us on the subject. I recently acquired a Large Sebenza (Regular) from one of the members of the forum and while admiring it discovered something that I had never seen before!! Yea like that's unusual.. (I in fact had seen it before but did not even notice it) I am the very proud caretaker of several Large and small Sebenza's in the "Regular" configuration.. they range from one of the first numbered Large Sebenzas from 1996 to a later version from 2007. And the Small's from 1998 to 2007. However (and yes I once again am taking the long way around the ole barn) Anyway, after I had purchased my latest Large Regular I sent the seller (whom I have had the extreme pleasure of purchasing a few other Sebenzas from) a PM with a question about the knife and he answered and I quote " "Yep. Has the small beveled liner lock cutout as well (instead of just straight scallops alone). Really a very unique knife, but subtle enough to where it isn't "in your face". I have to admit that I had no idea what the hell he was talking about!! But you could fill volumes with what I don't know.. So, I was admiring my latest "Score" and realized what he was talking about!! I had never seen, at least I thought I had never seen a Regular Sebenza with a beveled lock bar before. Actually I had never heard of it before. So I pulled out my Regulars large and small and there staring at me was a small with the same beveled lock bar!! Ok if you have read this far you deserve a ending. Let me just close by saying that both the Small and the Large have one thing in common and I don't know if this is significant or not, but they both have factory installed Double Lug's. This appears to me to be the only thing they have in common. The Large is from 2007 and the Small is from 2004. The Large has the fine bead blast finish and the Small is a CGG (Stars and Stripes). So without further ado.. here is a link to some pictures.
And please if you have more information on this new to me variation let me know!!
All the best,
Dah!! after writing this extremely long post I was looking at my photos (in the slide show mode really cool!) and realized that's exactly why they have the bevel!! for ease of left handed opening!! Double Lugs open left or right!! Amazing!! (at least to me)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/105937865@N07/sets/72157638066812885/
 
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The " cut out " your referring to is the cutout/chamfer CRK puts on the lockbar when Double Studs are added. It aids in locking/unlocking the knife. Completely normal is is the "NORM". They do this on both regulars and 21's alike. On a regular single stud version, it is not there. If it comes with double studs from CRK, it will already be there. If you send a sebenza in for double studs, they will add the "cut out / chamfer " and re-blast the lockside as part of the adding double studs process.
 
I knew you would have the answer nyefmaker!! I actually almost added to the post "come one nyefmaker" :) As you can see at the end of the very long and boreing post I figured it out!! As you know by now I'm not the sharpest knife in drawer!! But I figured it out..
Of course it is a very neat varation if you think about it. And if you have never seen or had a Sebenza with Double Lug's you would never know the "bevel existed!! Thanks for the great information!!
 
Your more than welcome. Your great pics pointed it out immediately. On a very few sebenzas also, there is a double lockbar cutout as well. Originaly when I seen "cut out" when starting to read your post, I thought that's what you meant. So if you like regulars, like I do ( the large regular sebenza is the finest folder ever made..:-) You may come across one. My large regular stars and stripes has it. Its the normal double cutout on the inside, but also has a single larger cutout on the outside as well. Kinda Cool....!!!
 
Very neat, great information.. the cutout/chamfer/bevel on the lock bar appears on the Classic, one of the changes from the "Orignal" of which it is derived and is continued on the 21 and the 25 but is only found on "Regulars" with Double Lugs. Great stuff.
Thanks again nyefmaker!!!

nyefmaker said:
The " cut out " your referring to is the cutout/chamfer CRK puts on the lockbar when Double Studs are added. It aids in locking/unlocking the knife. Completely normal is is the "NORM". They do this on both regulars and 21's alike. On a regular single stud version, it is not there. If it comes with double studs from CRK, it will already be there. If you send a sebenza in for double studs, they will add the "cut out / chamfer " and re-blast the lockside as part of the adding double studs process.
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More very interesting information!! I have seen the cut out you are referring to but not on a "Regular" on the Classic. Have you seen them on the Classic as well?

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Your more than welcome. Your great pics pointed it out immediately. On a very few sebenzas also, there is a double lockbar cutout as well. Originaly when I seen "cut out" when starting to read your post, I thought that's what you meant. So if you like regulars, like I do ( the large regular sebenza is the finest folder ever made..:-) You may come across one. My large regular stars and stripes has it. Its the normal double cutout on the inside, but also has a single larger cutout on the outside as well. Kinda Cool....!!!
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mikepapa1 said:
Now that's funny!! Thanks HwangJino!! very flattering comment!! But I think most folks would find it very boring!!
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Now I have to agree with HwangJino I would for sure watch the show. Now if you two would sell me all your CRk's I am sure you would have enough to start you own show. Of course there is no way I could afford them but just a thought. I have learned tons from reading both of your posts. Keep them comming.
 
Thanks Birdhunter1220!! As you can tell from my many boring posts I am but a novice where CRK is concerned, but thanks to BladeForum and the fantastic members here in the CRK Fourm who share my enthusiasm for these knives I continue to expand my still limited knowledge. I for my part just wanted to point out an interesting observation in the hopes that others with far greater knowledge and experience would chime in with answer's. I have not been disappointed!! I am very thankful to our resident historian nyefmaker and all the other members to numerous to mention here, who never fail to step forward and share their knowledge. Thank you everyone!
All the best,

Birdhunter1220 said:
Now I have to agree with HwangJino I would for sure watch the show. Now if you two would sell me all your CRk's I am sure you would have enough to start you own show. Of course there is no way I could afford them but just a thought. I have learned tons from reading both of your posts. Keep them comming.
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nyefmaker said:
The " cut out " your referring to is the cutout/chamfer CRK puts on the lockbar when Double Studs are added. It aids in locking/unlocking the knife. Completely normal is is the "NORM". They do this on both regulars and 21's alike. On a regular single stud version, it is not there. If it comes with double studs from CRK, it will already be there. If you send a sebenza in for double studs, they will add the "cut out / chamfer " and re-blast the lockside as part of the adding double studs process.
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^^^ This, it was done to a large Regular I had sent in for double studs. The knife didn't have it when it had a single thumb stud.

There is also the double lock spring cut out to look for, too. ;)
 
Haze said:
^^^ This, it was done to a large Regular I had sent in for double studs. The knife didn't have it when it had a single thumb stud.

There is also the double lock spring cut out to look for, too. ;)
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This is exactly what I was talking about Haze. The chamfer does aide greatly when opening up the knife with the left hand. The detent has alot to do with it with ease of opening as well. I have have sebenzas with stronger detents than others. Some with the "normal" detent were easy to open, while others with a very strong detent, the double stud was very tough to open, even with lubing and such. I noticed this more when CRK went to the thru hole for the detent rather than the indention.

The double spring cut out is cool too. There was a thread on it awhile back, actually quite some time back. I ended up with that very same Stars & Stripes. Though, I have seen it on others posted here over the years as well.

Mikepapa1.......Haze is Easily one of our resident historian's as well.....!!!
 
More great information Haze and nyefmaker!! again thanks for taking the time to comment and share your knowledge of these Great Knives!! And yes, I have enjoyed reading the posts here on the forum by our fellow enthusiast and another resident historian Haze! My hat's off to both of you and of course all the other members who so selfishly share their knowledge, pictures and opinions with the rest of us!!
All the best,

nyefmaker said:
This is exactly what I was talking about Haze. The chamfer does aide greatly when opening up the knife with the left hand. The detent has alot to do with it with ease of opening as well. I have have sebenzas with stronger detents than others. Some with the "normal" detent were easy to open, while others with a very strong detent, the double stud was very tough to open, even with lubing and such. I noticed this more when CRK went to the thru hole for the detent rather than the indention.

The double spring cut out is cool too. There was a thread on it awhile back, actually quite some time back. I ended up with that very same Stars & Stripes. Though, I have seen it on others posted here over the years as well.

Mikepapa1.......Haze is Easily one of our resident historian's as well.....!!!
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I have a small regular (LH) with the double cut out on the lock bar. It's the only one I've seen so I figured it was kinda rare. Both my large regs have factory double studs and the chamfer on the lock bar. It makes opening the knife with the off hand much easier.
 
Thanks for the comment Evany!! I would love to see photos of the "double cut out" I don't think I have ever seen one!!
As always, all the best!

Evany said:
I have a small regular (LH) with the double cut out on the lock bar. It's the only one I've seen so I figured it was kinda rare. Both my large regs have factory double studs and the chamfer on the lock bar. It makes opening the knife with the off hand much easier.
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This is my large Regular that has the "double cut out" it is cut on both sides for the spring rather than just on the inside. I haven't seen many of these Regulars about and have no idea how long it was done for, this one is a BG-42 so that gives one some idea of the age. :)

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Awesome picture Haze!! Thanks for sharing!! I have seen that before...but sadly do not have one.:grumpy:

Haze said:
This is my large Regular that has the "double cut out" it is cut on both sides for the spring rather than just on the inside. I haven't seen many of these Regulars about and have no idea how long it was done for, this one is a BG-42 so that gives one some idea of the age. :)

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Haze said:
This is my large Regular that has the "double cut out" it is cut on both sides for the spring rather than just on the inside. I haven't seen many of these Regulars about and have no idea how long it was done for, this one is a BG-42 so that gives one some idea of the age. :)

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Thanks for sharing Haze, Great Pic. The one I have with the " double cut out " is on a large regular stars and stripes.
 
Haze said:
This is my large Regular that has the "double cut out" it is cut on both sides for the spring rather than just on the inside. I haven't seen many of these Regulars about and have no idea how long it was done for, this one is a BG-42 so that gives one some idea of the age. :)

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Checked my 1996 large Regular - it doesn't have the secondary relief cut. If you feel like it, next time it's convenient, it would be interesting to know how old that Regular is. :)
 
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