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Chris Reeves Sebenza

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Unfortunately I have not handled a Sebenza. And until my three kids are grown there is no chance I can afford one. That said Can some of you Sebenza experts please tell me what makes these knives 400.00 plus? What makes them worth double the price of a Rukus 610? They look awesome, but I’m trying to justify the price. Sorry if this is a dumb question, or if its been covered before. Peace, Scotty
 
You could read the reviews in the passaround, including mine, the best review ever :p . Different strokes ..
 
I think if anything sets the Sebenzas apart from anything else, it is probably the fit and finish. A friend of mine got a small Sebenza not long ago, and they really are sweet. Tolerances are all perfect as far as I could tell. It opens super easy/smooth, everything is centered perfectly, ect.

I also think that now part of the justification for the price is just the name. Although there is a lot of opinions, the Sebenza is the knife that other production folders are judged against. Some others might be close or even just as good, but the Sebenza is still considered by the majority of people to be the standard. Personally I think that in and of itself has something to do with the popularity and cost of the knife.

Is it worth 4 bills? Hell I don't know, to some it is, to some it isn't. I still don't know if an SnG is worth 4 bills either, and I have been carrying one everyday for a few weeks. Its really something you have to judge for yourself, but thats my take on it.
 
well it should prove to be more insightful, than say a topic,,"please help me pick out a perfect Gerber folder" LMAO
 
Just so happens my newest acquisition arrived today:

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Perfect Gerber folder: Hinderer designs.

Anyway,... I've had 3 Sebenzas. I just didn't "get it." Yeah, fit and finish were dead on. Opened smooth and was very nice, just not my cup of tea. I REALLY wanted to like it, though. Far as being worth $400, I don't think so, but I own a Strider so what do I know :rolleyes: :D ?

If you really want a Sebenza, save up about $300 and wait for the secondary market to provide one. Get the most beat up one you can to save money, then send the knife and $35 to CRK and get it refurbed. BINGO, you've got yourself a basically brand new Sebenza. If it doesn't have the card, you can tell when it was produced (though not the day) by looking inside the scales. CRK might even be willing to issue a new card with the refurb date on it.

I think for $400 I'd rather have a custom knife, but that's me. You can get some really nice all Ti production framelocks for cheaper than that (the BM 630/635 and Buck/Mayo 172- which I DO have and EDC- come to mind), but sometimes you have to find out for yourself. I'd go the used market route if you're just curious about them.

Oh yeah, for Custom, just under $400 gets you a Hinderer XM-18. Not pretty, but built like the proverbial brick crapper.
 
Another thing to keep in mind is price fixing. Benchmades and Spydercos have a street price far below the MSRP. They are sold to wholesalers who sell to distributers who sell to dealers. High-end production brands like CRK and Strider sell only to licensed dealers, and those dealers must sell at the suggested price or they don't get any more knives.

I am not saying this price fixing is a bad thing, but it is the reason a Sebenza is $385 instead of $200. If you had to pay full price on every knife, the Sebenza wouldn't really be that much more expensive.

Forgetting about that, you must also keep in mind that CRK is a small company. They do not deal in volume as much as, say, Benchmade. Benchmade can afford to make a smaller profit per knife.

Lastly, CRK puts a lot of human eyes and hands on the knives. This is why they have custom-like fit and finish on every knife that leaves the shop. Having real people do the work and assure fit and finish requires more money. The fit and finish of CRK is noticably better than brands like BM, Buck, Kershaw, Spyderco, etc... this is a very real improvement, and for some people, a very important one.

Some people say for the price of a Sebenza, you can get a custom. And you can (though usually for a little more than a plain Sebbie). But getting a custom almost always requires a longer wait. And I don't think similarly priced customs are actually any better than a Sebenza. The Sebenza is such a great deal because it gives you a custom-level fit and finish, and far better availability. Yes, the price is the same, but so is the quality, IMO.

Is a Sebbie worth it? You have to answer that for yourself. I can tell you this, though:

I have a Skirmish, Rukus, 710, AFCK, and Griptilian. All together, they cost more than the $385 I spent on my Sebenza. My Sebenza has brought me more joy than all of my Benchmades put together. For me, buying a high-end knife like a Sebenza brings me more joy than spending the same amount of money on several knives from lesser brands. And that is saying a lot, because I adore all of my BMs, Spydies, Kershaws, Bucks etc.... So the question becomes: Are you going to spend more than $385 (or $330 for a small) on knives anyways? If so, maybe you should buy a Sebbie. If you don't plan on spending that much on less expensive knives (i.e., maybe you just want to spend around $100 on knives and then stop buying them), then the Sebbie might not be the best choice.

Also, you have to ask yourself if you will use a Sebenza or not. I paid the money because the Sebenza is such a great user, so I use it. But if you are scared to use a $300+ knife, then it would be a waste.
 
Well put Hair. People may not realize, but full price BMs and Spydies are pretty expensive!


Thank God for Newgraham :)
 
They cost so much because people keep buying them. It is all my fault.
 
I have a small sebbie and a spyderco Native. The Native has a great steel and was only $40 at Wally world. When you put the two knives in your hands; you can tell that the sebbie is winner when it comes to fit and finish.
Some like red heads and some like ........ You get the picture!
 
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