Chupacabras Are In Texas!

That's not a chupacabra ... looks more like a mangy coyote

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Oh no! the goat sucker! :D It does have a resemblance to Dr.Evil's hairless cat.
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I just love how the first thing they can think of when they meet a weird creature is to kill it.
I hope when the Martians arrive, they won't be too human in that respect. :D
 
How is this a W&SS topic? Moving to a more appropriate forum.
 
I just love how the first thing they can think of when they meet a weird creature is to kill it.
I hope when the Martians arrive, they won't be too human in that respect. :D

I think it is a mangy wild dog species. The barn owner mentioned the "creature" was not afraid, or unassuming. Hello, domesticated dog one or two generations back towards wild. They could have trapped them alive if they wanted. They looked hungry.

That washed up animal on the beach was in a state of decomposition, so it may be hard to verify, but also canine like.
 
National Geographic conducted genetic analysis of the "chupacabra" specimen. Coyote-Wolf (Mexican Red Wolf) hybrid.
With mange.
 
Don't you ifnd peculiar that in Monster Quest (History Channel), they never seem to find a single specimen (dead or alive) of any of the beasts the look for? You name it: the Chupacabras, the Mokele Mbembe, Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Monster birds, the Skunk Ape, or any other. The reason is ismple: they don't exist.
 
Mokele Mbembe,

Alright. I'm callin' Crypto-nerd. No one knows what the heck Mokele Mbembe is accept for you...

and me... :p

I'll agree with you on all points accept for the Thunderbird. I had a weird dream about Thunderbirds once and it stuck with me. It's a long story.

Asside from that you're right. They're as real as ghosts, UFO's and those things that people video taped in the 90's called rods (bugs flying in front of video camera lenses).
 
Don't you ifnd peculiar that in Monster Quest (History Channel), they never seem to find a single specimen (dead or alive) of any of the beasts the look for? You name it: the Chupacabras, the Mokele Mbembe, Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Monster birds, the Skunk Ape, or any other. The reason is ismple: they don't exist.

That reminds me of a title of a book that I read back in college which examined the "evidence" (over a century of it and still nothing remotely concrete) for psychical research. The conclusion, of course, is that there is no good evidence, so hence the title: The Elusive Quarry: A Scientific Appraisal of Psychical Research.

The Elusive Quarry. That stuck with me in reference to such matters. As a general principle it is fairly simple: If there is no evidence (or at least no conclusive evidence) for such extraordinary phenomena, creatures, etc....then it is safe to (tentatively at least) conclude it's because it/they don't exist.

Now of course "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", but, the thing is, if a phenomena/creature exists we usually find it and accumulate irrefutable evidence of it's existence/reality. We don't have "evidence" ranging from flimsy at best to out right hoaxes and lies at worst for things that truly exist (like the heliocentric theory). Things that actually exist are not so elusive as to escape documentation.

So unless and until we do acquire such concrete evidence for such extraordinary phenomena/claims/entities/creatures/etc. (remembering that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" not just "regular" evidence but even stronger evidence), we should trust that it does not exist. No, we should NOT conclude that it absolutely does not exist or can not exist (although, with some things, like ESP, for them to exist would mean that everything we know about physics, including all the mountains of data accumulated that verify our theories and laws beyond any reasonable doubt, would have to be either wrong somehow or severely lacking...this is possible, but not likely, and as the "evidence" for ESP is virtually non-existent; well, a wise man would hardly conclude that ESP is true and all the well established data that says it can't exist is not or flawed somehow), but lacking any good reason to believe it does we would be fools to think it does based on such shoddy evidence.

Btw, yea, those pseudoscience shows are just for ratings. They are strawmen; they may have a token skeptic but don't tell you the real story, because the real story is explained by prosaic means and that doesn't sell well.

http://www.skepdic.com/chupa.html

Off soapbox. Sorry, been a skeptic since college and it's a fun hobby/passion of mine. (I like to critically examine the evidence--such as it is--for all sorts of pseudoscientific claims...it's fascinating imo).
 
Don't you ifnd peculiar that in Monster Quest (History Channel), they never seem to find a single specimen (dead or alive) of any of the beasts the look for? You name it: the Chupacabras, the Mokele Mbembe, Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Monster birds, the Skunk Ape, or any other. The reason is ismple: they don't exist.

That channel's really gone down the toilet, right behind the Discovery Channel, and years after The Learning Channel. :grumpy:
 
That reminds me of a title of a book that I read back in college which examined the "evidence" (over a century of it and still nothing remotely concrete) for psychical research. The conclusion, of course, is that there is no good evidence, so hence the title: The Elusive Quarry: A Scientific Appraisal of Psychical Research.

You might be interested in an older book, How We Know What Isn't So. Fascinating stuff, how people come to believe myths and urban legends as fact.
 
You might be interested in an older book, How We Know What Isn't So. Fascinating stuff, how people come to believe myths and urban legends as fact.

Thanks, I think I have heard of that one, never read it though.

The one I actually referenced I actually remember as not being that great (not the easiest to read, he is not the best writer iow), but that title/phrase I have carried with me for over a decade.

I've read dozens of books (and hundreds of articles) in this category, from Sagan to Shermer to Randi to Gardner to Nichols to Kurtz...etc. I've been a member of The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry for over 10 years too. http://www.csicop.org/

Two essential books about pseudoscience and the paranormal and how to correctly think about them I highly recommend are:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Think-About-Weird-Things/dp/0767400135

http://www.amazon.com/Pseudoscience-Paranormal-Terence-Hines/dp/1573929794/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1279527341&sr=1-1

And of course the well known classic:

http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

I like reading about strange things, but the best part is when the mystery is solved by human ingenuity, reason, and patient investigation. That to me is deeply rewarding, much more rewarding than if these exotic creatures/phenomena were true (some of which carry nasty consequences...would you want to live in a world where a small part of the population actually had supernatural abilities like ESP? I wouldn't!), than if we really lived in a magical world. Reality, as Sagan would say, is far more interesting, intellectually rewarding, and stranger than any cheap or trite fantasy world filled with hokey magical powers and fantastical creatures. That stuff is for childrens storybooks, and for good reason, it's so corny and unimaginative.
 
That was determined to be a boxer type dog. Or at least I read it was.

No way! You heard wrong. It's a Montauk Monster - either an ill-begotten experiment from the depths of the Plum Island Animal Disease Center or an alien brought to earth by Nikola Tesla (who's death was faked by the way) as an unintended consequence of the Montauk Experiment.

DUH!
 
No way! You heard wrong. It's a Montauk Monster - either an ill-begotten experiment from the depths of the Plum Island Animal Disease Center or an alien brought to earth by Nikola Tesla (who's death was faked by the way) as an unintended consequence of the Montauk Experiment.

DUH!

A most appropriate post to be numbered 1,666.

Obviously, you're ... confused. It will have been a demon from the upper reaches of hell, just napping for a millennium or so before returning home.
 
A most appropriate post to be numbered 1,666.

Obviously, you're ... confused. It will have been a demon from the upper reaches of hell, just napping for a millennium or so before returning home.

Translation: It got caught in LIE traffic on the way to Jersey. Good eye on my post count!
 
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