CKTG diamond stones and spray

huntyukon

huntyukon

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Howdy folks,
I’ve been sharpening now for a year or so and am still learning. I only have experience with the KME Gold Series Stones and the EP diamond matrix. I was wondering what the CKTG diamond plates are like. The price is hard to beat, so Im not expecting too much from them. I was wondering if anyone knows how they would compare to the KME diamond stones. I’m thinking of getting the CKTG 1x6 diamond stones as well as a couple 3x8 diamond plates. Also, what is the quality of the Richmond diamond spray like? Any input in regards to this would be greatly appreciated.
 
See here. I have been using their older versions for years. My 140 grit stone doesn't cut as aggressively as it once did. So I just bought a new set. I bought individual stones. The 120 and 400 are as pictured in the link. The 1000 is still the older version. If you buy the set expect to get all looking like the 120 grit in the pictures. They seem to be JIS standard for their grit rating. So 1000 grit is a medium grit in my opinion. It will give a good working edge, but if you want a polished edge, you will need to follow with some other finishing stone.

I have no experience with KME, so can't compare. But for me the CKTG stones have worked well.

O.B.
 
Old Biker said:
See here. I have been using their older versions for years. My 140 grit stone doesn't cut as aggressively as it once did. So I just bought a new set. I bought individual stones. The 120 and 400 are as pictured in the link. The 1000 is still the older version. If you buy the set expect to get all looking like the 120 grit in the pictures. They seem to be JIS standard for their grit rating. So 1000 grit is a medium grit in my opinion. It will give a good working edge, but if you want a polished edge, you will need to follow with some other finishing stone.

I have no experience with KME, so can't compare. But for me the CKTG stones have worked well.

O.B.
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Thank you for the reply. If I read the conversion charts correctly, a JIS 80 should be loosely similar to a Fepa F 80 grit where a JIS1000 is more like an F400. Is this roughly correct? For now I was thinking to try out a couple of the rougher grits, 80 and 120?, strictly for re-profiling and chipped edges and the continue with my EP matrix stones that should arrive in the mail soon. I realize that anytime I start with such a rough grit I have to progress through all grits in order to remove scratches. With my Kme I would go from the 100 to 140, 300, 600, 1500. From there I went to a 6 micron film and then strop with cbn 4 micron and sometimes 1 micron.
 
huntyukon said:
Thank you for the reply. If I read the conversion charts correctly, a JIS 80 should be loosely similar to a Fepa F 80 grit where a JIS1000 is more like an F400. Is this roughly correct?
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As annotated in the ANSI Bonded column: from #220 and down (coarser) JIS R 6001, FEPA-F and ANSI Bonded all share a common specification, so within the variance allowed by that specification they are all the same.

JIS #1000 falls between F500 and F600 but know that electroplated diamond will act more coarsely and leave a much rougher surface than resin or vitrified bond.
 
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Mr.Wizard said:
As annotated in the ANSI Bonded column: from #220 and down (coarser) JIS, FEPA-F and ANSI Bonded all share a common specification, so within the variance allowed by that specification they are all the same.

JIS #1000 falls between F500 and F600 but know that electroplated diamond will act more coarsely and leave a much rougher surface than resin or vitrified bond.
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Perfect! Thanks for the info. This forum is awesome. I wish I joined a lot sooner. I never would’ve thought to get replies this quick
 
Does anyone know if getting the 80grit CKTG stone would be overkill? I have a 50 grit (the beast) KME stones and, while I don’t use it often. Every once in a while I’m glad I have such an aggressive stones.
 
How about that. My post was indeed moved somewhere else. I'm not sure which part of the post was violating something but I'll try to use different words.
huntyukon said:
CKTG diamond plates
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Never heard of them but I checked internet and the price for the set of three diamond plates on plastic bases for guided sharpeners is quite high. Those plates look exactly the same as my diamond plates I've got from other store for much less money per plate.
Those plates also look exactly the same as any other diamond plates on plastic bases you can get 'you know from where'.
Makes me wonder if they are just reselling 'overseas' diamond plates.
 
TheOne45 said:
How about that. My post was indeed moved somewhere else. I'm not sure which part of the post was violating something but I'll try to use different words.

Never heard of them but I checked internet and the price for the set of three diamond plates on plastic bases for guided sharpeners is quite high. Those plates look exactly the same as my diamond plates I've got from other store for much less money per plate.
Those plates also look exactly the same as any other diamond plates on plastic bases you can get 'you know from where'.
Makes me wonder if they are just reselling 'overseas' diamond plates.
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Your post was moved and an explanation sent to you regarding the issues which arose from it. If you take some time to read the rules, you may even discover yourself the basis for its having been moved offline.

Now, let's move on and not belabor the matter.
 
TheOne45 said:
How about that. My post was indeed moved somewhere else. I'm not sure which part of the post was violating something but I'll try to use different words.

Never heard of them but I checked internet and the price for the set of three diamond plates on plastic bases for guided sharpeners is quite high. Those plates look exactly the same as my diamond plates I've got from other store for much less money per plate.
Those plates also look exactly the same as any other diamond plates on plastic bases you can get 'you know from where'.
Makes me wonder if they are just reselling 'overseas' diamond plates.
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Oh, I see. I actually thought that was a good deal and a good “bang for a buck”. I figured a company like CKTG would not offer a product that is crap either. Naive of me to think that?
 
huntyukon said:
I figured a company like CKTG would not offer a product that is crap either.
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What on earth would make you think the product is crap?
First, it was just assumption because those diamond files look exactly the same as my cheap files.
Second, my files are working just fine for about three years now. They don't feel to me as crap. They are electro plated diamonds on metal with plastic base and they cut all my blades just fine from Opinel Carbon, D2, K110, 12c27 to HSS 65HRc steel.
 
TheOne45 said:
What on earth would make you think the product is crap?
First, it was just assumption because those diamond files look exactly the same as my cheap files.
Second, my files are working just fine for about three years now. They don't feel to me as crap. They are electro plated diamonds on metal with plastic base and they cut all my blades just fine from Opinel Carbon, D2, K110, 12c27 to HSS 65HRc steel.
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I misunderstood your last post then.
My bad.
I actually thought that the CKTG plates were priced reasonably low at $9,95 per single plate. If they do what they’re supposed to I’m quite content paying that.

TheOne45 said:
Those plates also look exactly the same as any other diamond plates on plastic bases you can get 'you know from where'.
Makes me wonder if they are just reselling 'overseas' diamond plates.
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Sorry, but unfortunately I don’t know from where and overseas could be anywhere. Unless we’re talking about the 3rd biggest country in the world here?
 
We'd prefer to avoid getting into discussions leading to lengthy harangues and hurt feelings related to "country of origin" issues. So let's simply discuss the products and allow folks to make their own decisions without the attendant drama. We all have our own notions in this regard.

Thanks in advance.
 
Blues said:
We'd prefer to avoid getting into discussions leading to lengthy harangues and hurt feelings related to "country of origin" issues. So let's simply discuss the products and allow folks to make their own decisions without the attendant drama. We all have our own notions in this regard.

Thanks in advance.
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Understood. Didn’t mean anything by it. My apologies
 
huntyukon said:
If they do what they’re supposed to I’m quite content paying that.
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I think those plates will work just fine. They will work at least the same as my diamond plates and I have no complaints.
Just gently break them in first befor using on your best knives.
 
I've used the CKTG dual-grit 8"x3" 400/1000 diamond plate for years. Works a treat for Elmax steel. I bought an Atoma 140 from them for use as a waterstone flattener. Bought all of my Shapton stones from them, also a nice balsa strop. I have not tried their diamond sprays or compounds.

I have been a customer of CKTG for years, no complaints. Sharpening supplies, knives. Good prices, fast shipping, good support and friendly forum.
 
jc57 said:
I've used the CKTG dual-grit 8"x3" 400/1000 diamond plate for years. Works a treat for Elmax steel. I bought an Atoma 140 from them for use as a waterstone flattener. Bought all of my Shapton stones from them, also a nice balsa strop. I have not tried their diamond sprays or compounds.

I have been a customer of CKTG for years, no complaints. Sharpening supplies, knives. Good prices, fast shipping, good support and friendly forum.
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That’s great to know. I have ordered the 120 grit for the EP and also the 400/1000 grit 3x8 plate as well as a Roo strop set with the 1 micron spray. It seldom makes sense to place and order for just one item, when one lives in northern canada,

As I was placing the order I gave them a call, this was on Friday I think, and spoke to Mark. Super nice guy. He was very helpful. It was shipped the same day still. Which surprised me, between Christmas and New Year’s Eve.
 
I've purchased from them many times as well over the years...from Shaptons to their own diamond bench stones, to hones for the EdgePro, and a gadget here and there. Never had any issues.
 
Happy new year everyone! So I ended up placing another order with them last night. Amongst other things I ordered a Sienna Xcel leather strop. Does anyone have any experience with that leather? It’s supposed to be thin and hard, with a decent draw. It said it has a pretty smooth surface though and doesn’t hold compound as well as Roo for example. So more for sprays or to use without anything on it. I just wanted to give it a try.

I gotta say, their customer service is top notch. Great place to buy from!

I also got a 4K diamond Matrix for my Kadet. Excited to try it out. So far I always ended with a 1500 diamond stone and went to strops and/or lapping films from there. Sometimes I go down to 1 micron, but find myself finishing with a strop and Ken’s 4 micron cbn. Gives me a nice finish and I’m quite happy with that.

Hauke
 
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