Cleaning sharpmaker ceramic triangle stones

IntheWoods

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After discovering the sharpmaker, and being very happy with its performance. I decided to test the best method to clean its ceramic stones during sharpening of my rather extensive knife collection, as I'm convinced clean stones are critical for the best performance.

I bought the following products, based upon the recommendation in the manual that one use a powder scouring cleanser and abrasive pad to clean the stones.

Comet w/bleach
no name scouring cleanser w/bleach
Soft Scrub lemon
Bar keepers friend
economy scrub pads
3m heavy duty scrub pads

I also decided to try regular dawn dishwashing liquid as well. After each cleaning session I sharpened a few old knives to dirty up the stones.

Although the dawn was a very good degreaser, it did not provide enough abrasion to satisfactorily remove the steel stains on the stones. Streaks were still very visible.

I next tried the no name brand scouring cleanser and Comet with economy scrub pads. Both of which were substantially better than dishwashing liquid, but still left significant streaks even with heavy scrubbing.

The economy scrub pads were no bargain in my view. They tear up far too easily and lack abrasiveness. Changing the pads to the 3m variety was significantly better but still less than complete.

Next I tried soft scrub. Soft scrub provided a similar experience to the comet and economy cleaners, and was much less messy. And for that reason is, in my view, an ideal everyday cleanser for the stones when not extremely dirty.

Then I pulled out bar keepers friend, and carefully read the directions. I followed them an applied to the 3m pad, scrubbed each damp stone briefly and set them down for a few minutes, then returned scrubbed again then rinsed. The stones were as clean as new. Apparently bar keepers friend has an Oxalic Acid component which also helps to remove rust stains from porcelain, etc. It also contains no bleach.

From this experimentation I have come to a few conclusions. Soft scrub is a very good cleaner, that's much less messy, especially inside, than the other choices. However, it is not a complete cleaner. It is a good cleaner for cleaning when the stones aren't very dirty, etc.

But for restoring or complete cleaning of these ceramic stones, nothing beats 3m heavy duty scour pads and bar keepers friend. And a brief dwell period of a few minutes of so. It will literally return these stones to new condition with little or no signs of use. With only a reasonable amount of scrubbing and work.

It should be noted that unlike Comet, the bargain cleanser and soft scrub, bar keepers friend appears to be harder on the skin. An can seriously dry hands with constant use.

But as stated above, along with a good quality scrub pad is second to none at cleaning ceramic stones.

Final tally in order of effectiveness

1. Bar keepers friend w/3m heavy duty scrub pads
2. Soft scrub w/3m heavy duty scrub pads
3. Comet w/bleach w/3m heavy duty scrub pads
4. Economy cleanser w/3m heavy duty scrub pads

Bar keepers friend and 3m scrub pads was far and away the most effective product. Numbers 2,3 and 4 were similar in performance but soft scrub was far less messy, easier to use and had many dual uses within the house/kitchen.
 
Get a rust eraser. They're world's faster, less of a mess, and less expensive over time. AG Russell and New Graham sell them as do others.
 
Hey thom,

I went to AG Russel and took a look.

Those things look remarkably like a sanding sponge, available for next to nothing at hardware/home centers.

Can you give me an estimate of what you think the grit is?

If they are similar to sanding sponges, and use aluminum oxide as the abrasive, I wonder if they would cause the stones to abrade excessively, or more than necessary?

Do you use them dry?
 
Thanks for doing (and posting) that little research project. I have also come to the conclusion that a clean surface on the stone speeds the removal of metal. I have very little experience with that sharpmaker, but I have cleaned ceramic "crock sticks" with varying degrees of sucess for some time. I will have to try your method with the BKF and see if that reduces the work, or improves the result. Would this method work on all ceramic sharpening surfaces?
 
Instead of scrub pads, I use a small scrub brush that has nylon bristles - something similar to an oversized toothbrush. It seems to do a better job of getting into the nooks & crannies than scrub pads.

And yes, a clean stone is a happy stone. A clogged stone is a sad stone.
 
What about 000 or 0000 grit steel wool in conjunction with Comet? I think I have read where folks have used regular Brillo Pads and a Comet-like cleaner with good results. But I think the 000 or 0000 steel wool is finer than a Brillo Pad. My wife uses 0000 for her jewelry making on silver.

Also, a little mystery has cropped up. Why doesn't the steel wool/Brillo pad leave behind metal on the ceramic stone like a knife does?

By the way, I think this was a good write up and comparison, thanks for doing it.

Thanks IntheWoods!
 
I don't think steel wool is the right answer... You want to use something that will not deteriorate and become lodged in the pores of the stone. When you rub steel wool on anything, stuff comes off of the steel wool, thereby defeating the intent of removing metal from the stone.
 
I believe it will if you apply enough pressure and time. The wool isn't coming into contact the same way the blade edge does. I have noticed this also with steel wire brushes. I use Comet or Ajax powder and some warm water with a scotch brite pad and the stones clean up fine. It should also be noted that Spyderco states removing the metal will get easier over time and that the first few times of cleaning will not remove everything. Indeed this appears true. They clean easier and better now than when I first got them a year ago.
 
"Those things look remarkably like a sanding sponge..."
They are not sanding sponges. These are rubber "erasers" impregnated with grit.
Bill
 
Use mr, clean white eraser blocks and water. Do not buy the other brand they do not work as well and are barely cheaper.
Or let them soak in a cleaner then scrub them with almost anytype of scouring pad.
 
SwollenShoulder said:
Thanks for doing (and posting) that little research project. I have also come to the conclusion that a clean surface on the stone speeds the removal of metal. I have very little experience with that sharpmaker, but I have cleaned ceramic "crock sticks" with varying degrees of sucess for some time. I will have to try your method with the BKF and see if that reduces the work, or improves the result. Would this method work on all ceramic sharpening surfaces?

Yes, I believe it to be the best manner to clean non glazed ceramic sharpening surfaces such as crock sticks, etc.

I will investigate these sanding sponge, rust removers and post the results here.
 
What Bill DeShivs said. They're erasers impregnated with grit. If they feel like a sponge to you, you've either got the wrong product or are so strong that you shatter your housekeys on a daily basis reaching in your pocket.
 
No I don't have one. I just looked at the picture on AG Russell's website and that's what they looked like.

I stand corrected.
 
Steel wool definitely works better than plastic scrubbies. May not make sense, but there it is.

I haven't tried rust eraser yet
 
Im telling you 5-10 sec with the mr clean eraser and water, and you are set.
They also clean shoes quite well and they clean painted walls. They will get most marks of of the walls, just get them barely damp.

They clean that coating of gunk out of dog bowls, which can be a pain cause what ever they put in dog food molds up fast and creates a thin clear coat which is a pain to get off.

Pick some up you wont be disapointed, but like I said get the mr.clean cause there is a difference.

i do not mean to seem pushy, but I just could not believe all the things that those eraser blocks clean, they are a little denser than a sponge, so would not think it would be able to clean like it does.
 
Hey, Thestaber, by "white eraser blocks", do you mean those pencil erasers, like this?

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I use a white drafting eraser and have real good results. The drafting eraser seems to have less "rubbings" to scatter, that and I had several on hand.:) Much easier and no dry time.

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