Cleaver thoughts?

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Hey guys, I was browsing through BladeHQ the other day and came across this: http://www.bladehq.com/item--Combat-Ready-CUMA-Battle-Cleaver--16770
There are 3 different colored handles, green, tan and black. A part of me says buy it, not sure why, it would be a great chopper and would make my current kitchen butcher knives run away in fear.

Here's a video of it in hand by the maker/designer, guess its a custom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD5EliM4e64

So what do you guys think of this, Combat Ready Battle Cleaver? It is a clever design or do you think its stupid?
Only reason I like it is because of the Kabar Zombie Killer Chopstick.
 
My thoughts are this: I personally see no use for a cleaver of any type that has the handle go below the level of the blade. Reason: you simply can not use it on a table surface or any flat surface as the handle will hit before the blade is fully on the table. Making you have to use it with the handle over the edge of the table or flat surface. You also increase the risk of smashing your fingers with this design. I am certainly no expert. I do have 6 cleavers & none of them have handles that dip below the blade. They all work fine. That same handle design is the very reason i won't buy the KaBar Zombstro. http://www.kabar.com/knives/detail/179
 
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My 2 cents...you asked for it! :D

1) A sabre/hollow ground chopper? That doesn't make sense to me. If it is chisel ground to boot, I think it would be even less effective as a chopper.

2) This "Adolescent boy ninja bait" ad copy alone would make me not buy it:

"The C.U.M.A. Battle Cleaver is a Waysun "Johnny" Tsai design that makes just about everything else on the market seem a little less manly."

3) Kitchen butcher knives don't look like that. They look the way they do because they work.

All that said, it looks like it would make a good prying/entry tool (like the Becker BK3 that it seems to be modeled after).
 
These work. 1/4" thick & Made in America for about the same price as the one you were looking at.

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7", 8", & 9" Dexter/Russell Heavy Duty cleavers.
 
TwinStick said:
My thoughts are this: I personally see no use for a cleaver of any type that has the handle go below the level of the blade. Reason: you simply can not use it on a table surface or any flat surface as the handle will hit before the blade is fully on the table. Making you have to use it with the handle over the edge of the table or flat surface. You also increase the risk of smashing your fingers with this design. I am certainly no expert. I do have 6 cleavers & none of them have handles that dip below the blade. They all work fine. That same handle design is the very reason i won't buy the KaBar Zombstro. http://www.kabar.com/knives/detail/179
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I agree with this. I personally wouldn't want the front sharpened either.
 
TwinStick said:
My thoughts are this: I personally see no use for a cleaver of any type that has the handle go below the level of the blade. Reason: you simply can not use it on a table surface or any flat surface as the handle will hit before the blade is fully on the table. Making you have to use it with the handle over the edge of the table or flat surface. You also increase the risk of smashing your fingers with this design. I am certainly no expert. I do have 6 cleavers & none of them have handles that dip below the blade. They all work fine. That same handle design is the very reason i won't buy the KaBar Zombstro. http://www.kabar.com/knives/detail/179
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marcinek said:
My 2 cents...you asked for it! :D

1) A sabre/hollow ground chopper? That doesn't make sense to me. If it is chisel ground to boot, I think it would be even less effective as a chopper.

2) This "Adolescent boy ninja bait" ad copy alone would make me not buy it:

"The C.U.M.A. Battle Cleaver is a Waysun "Johnny" Tsai design that makes just about everything else on the market seem a little less manly."

3) Kitchen butcher knives don't look like that. They look the way they do because they work.

All that said, it looks like it would make a good prying/entry tool (like the Becker BK3 that it seems to be modeled after).
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^What these guys said. :)
 
XiaolongJackson said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyXfBhBzBWA
Here's a promotional video for it. Had to stop watching at around 0:23 because I couldn't take anymore.
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That...is funny. To me it demonstrates how impractical the knife is and how people would rather have a tool that looks "cool" rather then a tool that is good at what you need. Did you see how many glancing blows there were when he was chopping on wood? Seems to fail miserably in that regard. Of course the guy swinging the thing doesn't look like he knows what he's doing.
 
It isn't a "cleaver" by any definition and I certainly wouldn't carry that into combat.

It is however, a rip-off of the Ontario SP8 survival machete. If you want an overbuilt chopping device, why not get the original? At least the Ontario has been issued a NSN - 5110-01-570-3196 so you can pretend that it's all Military & such...
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-Or, you'd rather buy something nobody has ever heard of before, and which has only been tested by a pale and obese stockboy with dangerous knife handling habits (yes, I watched the vid.)
 
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Shotgun said:
That...is funny. To me it demonstrates how impractical the knife is and how people would rather have a tool that looks "cool" rather then a tool that is good at what you need. Did you see how many glancing blows there were when he was chopping on wood? Seems to fail miserably in that regard. Of course the guy swinging the thing doesn't look like he knows what he's doing.
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Wow. The part where he jams the thing into the log "point" first? Not too bright. You couldn't pay me enough to do that.

And the point early on when he chops with it and it bounces off the log? The "glancing blows" Shotgun mentioned? This is a "promotional" video?!? Were they trying to be funny?

Just on a whim, I watched some of the Tsai video too...I stopped when he said the knife is a good "zombie killer." :rolleyes:

All that said...again, looks like a OK "homage" to the Ontario or the Becker. I'd pry with it. (Or get a prybar...or even better a Stanley Fubar.)
 
Sorta reminds me of a big Razel. I like the Razels, but not this piece. Someone already mentioned the handle angle. That's what jumped out at me right away too. It should at least be straight, but I'd actually prefer having it angled slightly in the opposite direction (like many actual kitchen cleavers). I'd pass on it, personally.
 
Made it to 1:30 of the video.

I kept telling myself it was a spoof. A parody. It was done in jest, but I think they really intended to be serious.........
 
the BHQ vid was a joke, the knife doesn't look to have been all that seriously designed either.
 
If you wanna check a better video, check WeAllJuggleKnives's Youtube channel. He does a decent review of it here:
[video=youtube;AdD_xdD9xrk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdD_xdD9xrk[/video]
 
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