To Chang: You might be right. Winter arrived here in Wisconsin, and I switched over to a pair of new 'boot cut' jeans. My SOCOM Tanto has never been carried in this pair. I have been carrying my new LCC, which has the clip at the end of the handle, or 'tip up.' It seems to slip out easier. I figured that they finally got the clip spring geometry worked out, and that's why there were relieved areas in the clip. Of course, as a former motorcycle club member, a bit of tattered piping on some 'really stressed' jeans is about as serious as mild halitosis; my Edge-Pro 220 grit water stone is a bit 'dished,' and must be straightened. Now, THERE'S a problem...--OKG