Close call?

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Myself and a friend visited a local Gun Show today and is common practice, I packed along a majority of the new knives I have accumulated lately to show to friends I rarely see outside of this event or others like it. On the way home we stopped into the local convenience store for some liquid refreshment and who should I run into? Just your average local LEO. After the customary exchange of greetings I happened to think about what I was carrying. I looked down and was almost blinded by the shimmering display of pocket clips and other knife related appendages that came into view. I was literally armed to the teeth :eek: My inventory consisted of;

right front pocket - Darrel Ralph carbon fiber EDC clipped to the pocket with a BM Darkstar riding inside

watch pocket - BM 940 Osborne

left front pocket - large Wegner, clipped

left rear pocket - Starmate

right rear pocket - pair of LCC's, Tactical and carbon fiber

I also had an Ed Caffrey EBK clipped to the front of my waistband.

While everything I was carrying was acceptable from a legal standpoint, I'm am certain that I would have definitely been questioned about my carrying habit if the officer had noticed all the hardware. Thankfully I took the 7" bowie out of the small of my back before I got into the truck :rolleyes:

It was worth a good laugh on the way home, but somehow I couldn't stop thinking about what could have happened.
 
That's alot of knives. Last semester, I got into the habit of putting a knife in my backpack occasionaly if I was undecided about what to carry, eventualy, I had six knives in my pack in addition to the two on me, and I realized: What if I got searched for some reason? I wouldn't even have a good explanation like you :)
 
A couple of years ago my buddy and I met some friends at a local bar to catch a college basketball game. It was a couple of weeks before Christmas. I tend to carry about a half dozen knives at a time if you count multitools and SAKs. Well my buddy has kind of a lead foot and we got stopped. We both had had a couple of beers but were no where near drunk. Since my buddy was driving they had him do all the roadside tests and he passed. Then they had him blow and said he was borderline. They asked me to blow to see if I could drive and I was also borderline. The cop that stopped us was a young guy and very nice. The back up was older and not very nice. The young explained that the driver was legal at this point but the older was pushing to take us in and see if his BAC went up by the time we got to the station house. The young guy explained all this to us and said we would have to leave the car and he would drive us home. When he walked away I began unloading my pockets into the glove box. I got rid of the pepper spray and a couple of big folders but not everything. Before we got in the Squad Car, the old guy asked if we had "any weapons or knives". I began to empty what was left: a Leatherman a couple of small to medium lockbacks and an SAK. Then the old boy says: "Jeez have you got any machine guns in there?" and just shook his head. The young cop scooped up my goodies, put them on his front seat and told us to get in. On the way home he explained that even though the driver was legal he was close and they could have taken us in and done a blood test. We were catching a break and we knew it. He also asked If I was a collector and complimented me on a couple of the pieces. We thanked him profusely when he dropped us off and he told me to make sure I got back everything I gave him to hold. An experience like that makes up for a lot of the nasty experiences I've had---seven miles over the speed limit, a radar stop where the guy had to be sitting right where the speed limit decreased by five MPH.

phantom4
 
Wow, that was lucky, could have gone either way.

It's good that you handled it tactfully and politely. I've run into both types of LEO's, and have to say that the good ones outnumber the bad ones 10 to 1. Maybe even more. The ratio in other professions is not that good, but I'll not say which ones! ;)

I find that being polite and courteous is always best, no matter what. They really do have a hard job, and being asked to put your life on the line tends to increase the stress exponentially.

There was another thread along these lines, this subject matter can get philosophical real quick - let's see, oh yeah, knives. I had a Schrade Old Timer folder in my truck at the time!
 
Being an LEO and a knife nut I probably just would of asked about what you were carrying and asked to see em from a collector's point of view. We did have a guy a couple of years ago who we had to shoot after he attacked an officer with a knife. The officer sent his K9 on him and the guy stabbed the dog several times then the officer shot the guy four. Well when they got the guy contained he was carrying like nine knives. These were not quality stuff but kitchen knives and a Meat Cleever. He is in the big house now....
 
Hold on here. . . the BG was attacking the *officer* not just the dog right??

-Latebound
 
When I was younger I got searched. They found my boot knife, a metal pipe (club) and maybe a couple other things. They told me to be careful and have a good day! Good thing they did not find the 18" overall length 410 shotgun.....
 
The bad guy stabbed the dog !!! You and the other officer are better men than I. When it comes to animals things change completely for me. I would have emptied every clip I had into that man, after watching him stab the K9. Did the dog survive?
 
I need to clear up my last post a bit. the guy was ordered to stop or the dog would be sent. the man had not produced the knife at that time . The officer sent the dog and then the knife came out and he stabbed the dog. The k9 officer then shot the man 4 times which produced the stop. the man had a past history of mental illness and had attacked law enforcement in the past. the dog was stabbed several times and had to be retired. He suffered other wounds too from the attack. The man had also struck him several times in the head while he was being bitten. the dog succumbed to these injuries several months later and had to be put to sleep.
Sevo was posthumosly awarded the K9 medal of valor and it now displayed in the front lobby of our police station
 
Hold on here. . . the BG was attacking the *officer* not just the dog right??

-Latebound


doesnt matter.
the dog is an officer,IIRC.
gets an officers funeral if KIA.

right?
 
What criteria have to be met to use deadly force? Is this criteria different for a LEO than for the average Joe? I would think that it would only be justified to prevent a death or a serious injury to a person.
If the BG had attacked a non-LEO dog, would it have prompted the same response?

-Latebound
 
Not to get too off-track, but I just thought I'd mention that cop dogs are AWESOME. I'm a big animal lover, especially dogs, and I'm always amazed at how much these dogs contribute. Hats off to our four-legged officers! :) And to the two-legged officers they work with.
 
Originally posted by mnblade
Not to get too off-track, but I just thought I'd mention that cop dogs are AWESOME. I'm a big animal lover, especially dogs, and I'm always amazed at how much these dogs contribute.
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Not off-track at all. I used to ride the NY subways up into the Bronx, not always the safest area. We had a lot of Transit Police walk through the cars, and there was always that portion of the public that would sneer at them and make smart remarks, which they ignored. But when one officer would come through with his K-9 partner, these same types would sit quietly, hands in their laps, heads down.
 
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