Co-Pilot perfect air travel knife?

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Does anyone carry this as their air travel carry? Although the blade's only 2", it acts and feels like a medium-sized blade, is strong with the usual excellent Spydie edge geometry. I also like the way the handle is large for a little knife, adding leverage. It's small enough the bills clipped to it would look just like any money clip (unless someone knows knives). The ATS-55, though not as rust-resistant as some steels, holds an edge and resharpens relatively easily.
It might get through some places where even a little Dragonfly would look 'threatening' to some people.
Jim
 
I have traveled with a Co-Pilot and I would agree that it is a great air travel knife, especially if you get the plain edged version. Many airlines simply do not accept serrated bladed knives. It should be said that some airports won't accept lockblades and some countries like Britain and Japan have extremely strict knife laws that may restrict the Co-Pilot.
 
Anthony:
Yes, I agree about plainedged knives being preferable for air travel. I never carry anything serrated on an airline...then again for air travel so far I've only ever carried SAKs.

A few years ago Steven Dick in a TK article mentioned that he was not allowed to carry on a plainedge Calypso Jr. Micarta because it had a locking blade, even though technically it fell well within the legal limits. So I've still yet to carry a locking blade of any kind on an airline. It seems a plain Co-pilot would possibly be the best compromise for size, usefulness, and being less menacing.
Jim
 
A plain Cricket is also a good travel knife. I have traveled with an old aluminum several times. As for who will accept a lockback, it can be hit and miss. I believe alot has to do with your appearance and age. Also, carry smaller knives. I know the FA says 4" but I recommend less than 3". The ideal being 1.5-2.5" with an OAL under 6.25". I know I may step on some toes, but highjacking and terrorism are real problems (not to mention crazy people also) and airlines are right to monitor what we carry onto their planes. Sometimes we have to accept some restrictions for the good of society.
 
I have been considering a knife just for air travel and have it down to the co-pilot or the navigator. Has anyone got any experience with the navigator?
 
The Navigator is a fine knife. It has a larger handle than the Co-Pilot and some people may find it more comfortable. I small Spyderco to consider although it is expensive, is the Mouse, which is available through Blade-Tech. It is roughly the size of the Co-Pilot but the handle is extremely confortable for such a small knife. The blade has a pronounced drop point that would make it a great caping or skinning knife. Another plus is that the blade is VG-10, the Navigator is Gin-1, the Co-Pilot is ATS 55 in the current version.
 
I received my plain edge Almite Nagivator just last week, and I have carried it everyday since. I really like the knife. It must be handled to appreciate it. It's small, but it feels big. The "Gunmetal Blue" scales look really nice too. I am very pleased.

--Matt
 
I've carried a G-10 plain edge Navigator on a plane several times, and I've never had a problem or been questioned about it.


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Chris
 
A plain-edge Navigator makes a fine travel knife. I've been thru various airports probably 100 times with my older-style Almite Navigator and never had a problem. I like that knife so well I got a serrated Almite one, too, but not for air travel. I think you'd need to handle a Co-Pilot, Navigator, and Pegasus to decide which you liked best. They're definitely cousins, if not siblings.
 
Plain edge Pegasus is the way to go.
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How timely that I happened to find this discussion just two days after taking a domestic U.S. flight. I was returning from New York to Florida, leaving Islip MacArthur airport in suburban Long Island, headed for West Palm Beach. Now, when I go through the airport I try to be efficient about it, and part of that means getting all my metal objects into my hands for deposit into the security baskets, so I don't back up the line digging into my pockets after making the machine beep.
Well, this time I was an idiot: even though I got my change, my Zippo, my space pen, etc. etc. out of my pockets, and put my CoPilot into the basket concealed under a fold of bills, I completely forgot that I had my Myerchin rigging knife in a nylon sheath on my hip, under my shirt. The whole deal, stainless handle and marlinspike. Well, the woman working security reminded me I still was wearing the knife when her wand happened across it, and I was genuinely surprised and embarrassed. She asked that I remove it, she looked at it in her hand, then put it into the basket with my other stuff, checked my belt buckle (the last thing that beeped) and sent me on my way.
Next, though, the woman on the x-ray machine wanted to know about a couple of things in my carry-on knapsack were. One was a Nalgene water bottle filled with water, which she made me drink from (presumably to be assured it was not nitroglycerine) and the other was my Leatherman Wave -- which I also would have put into my checked baggage if I had remembered it at all.
So the CoPilot raised no eyebrows at all, and even the larger Myerchin, marlispike and all, did not cause a hassle.
As far as travel in Japan and Britain...well, I have nothing good to say about either of those places. The morons who run those asylums still perpetuate the lie that if you disarm the LAW-ABIDING, you'll protect them from crime. Fools. They think that banning tiny knives does anything good for society? Let 'em go to hell, then.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by James Y:
Yes, I agree about plainedged knives being preferable for air travel. I never carry anything serrated on an airline...

A few years ago Steven Dick in a TK article mentioned that he was not allowed to carry on a plainedge Calypso Jr. Micarta because it had a locking blade, even though technically it fell well within the legal limits. Jim
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I've had 3" blades with black coating rejected, 3" partly serrated rejected... never a locker on that trait alone, but I don't doubt it one bit.

Each concourse has security hired by dominant carrier on that concourse. They are free to make the FAA rules more restrictive without notice, without having a written set of rules to reference... the $6/hour space-patrol types do as they see fit, on inspiration. Ahhh...the power.

I always stick my airport-pocket-knife in my carry-on and send it through xray...often inside a glasses case just to confuse the blade image with eye glasses, or in a pocket of my bag filled with coins. Very rarely do they open the bag to fetch "that pocket knife" that showed up on xray. I don't think they know what it is... metal lined liner locks are particularly hard to pick out on xray...looks like a blob, hard to see blade outline. Part-way down the concourse, I stop and retrieve pocket knife. Works for me very routinely.


[This message has been edited by rdangerer (edited 03-31-2001).]
 
no problems with my plain spyderco dragonfly lightweight. or the police necklace knife on my keyring with 2 keys and a car alarm fob. i must say, i REALLY love the overall utility in every sense of the word (including having it when needed) of the dragonfly. thanks Sal et al
 
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