Coat and Tie Exotica

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I love the spooky stuff, but what about us law abiding Joes, who like to hide stuff in plain sight, you know, briefcase type stuff.

I'll tell you what I'd like.

When I was a kid, I lived in a not so nice area. My best friend carried a ruler for self defense. Not just any ruler, this thing was monstrous! Same profile as any wood dimestore ruler, but thicker and made of brass. I've looked but have never found anything like it.

I have seen some nice brass lined maple rulers for sale and may pick one up, but I'd like something with sort of a handle.

In the old days of China, there was a weapon called an iron ruler. It was either a flattened, rectangular iron bar, or the rectangular bar with a handle (looks like a paint-stirring stick that you get from the hardware store).

Now if only someone would make something like this: a ruler with all the regular measurement markings, handled like a paint stirrer in either aluminium, brass or brass lined hardwood (maple, hickory): 16-18 inches long.

This would be something that I would be glad to stick into the outside newspaper pocket of my briefcase. Think of it as a stealth flatstick warclub or a Chinese iron ruler, hiding in plain sight!

Anyway, just an idea...anyone else got any?
 
I'd also like it if someone made a heavy duty Bic Stic pen. Same barrel as a cheapy Bic pen, but aluminum (brass, steel or titanium?) with a screw on pointed cap instead of the regular push on. One can buy a cheap Stic pen, take out the writing part out and insert it into the metal barrel, or just make the barrel bigger and stick the whole pen in. A totally legal, refillable Kubotan!
 
I really like the idea of the Iron/Brass Ruler. I am always on the lookout for a good weapon that can be explained as a legitamate tool. I have finally stopped carrying my asp baton because it is now illegal to carry one and am looking for a legal replacement. A perfect example of a completely innocent weapon is the Bandando. Now I just need a good legal club. Any Ideas?
 
at the V.A. where i work, we had a couple of these 24" rulers- thick wood, with a little thin brass insert on them...they could really hurt if you got popped with them. i used to think that it would be neat to sharpen that brass insert, maybe 6 - 8 inches along the lower number end...you'd have a real heavy slasher there...
those rulers have disappeared, although we still have those heavy carpenter rulers, with the brass insert- they're about 18 inches long...
i'm sure a carpenter or architect supply house may have something heavy and wooden.
Until then, try this....
(i love making up little covert toys)...
buy two of those aluminum or better yet, if you can find them, steel, rulers, go for 24 inches or cut them down to 18 inches if you like close stick-work...
Then buy the strongest-bonding cement you can find...
glue those two rulers perfectly together, so they look like one....if anybody asks, hey, it's a high-quality ruler, some of them have numbers on the other side, makes it last longer, etc.....
now all you have to do is sharpen the edge if you want, and you're set.
 
i went to a private boys catholic high school and one of the teachers who was a former marine carried a brass 18" ruler that was used to give out corporal punishment and also used to threaten the students when they misbehaved....he had this thing polished to a mirror finish and it gleamed like it was made of highly polished gold....he used to say'"He who has the gold rules and i have the golden rule. Dont mess with the golden rule." He would brandish this brass ruler as he eyed us like a drill sargent when we were too loud or would be acting up. For the four years i attended that school i only saw one student "spanked" with that golden ruler..one lick on the behind and thats all she wrote.....i dont think that guy sat down for a week...we used to ask this teacher where we could get one of the golden rulers but he would never tell us where to obtain one....i too have often thought they would make a great hidden in plain sight weapon and would be quite effective


as far as the idea of the pen goes, there is the sheath maker for a very well known father and son knife making team just west of the mississippi river from memphis who makes the neatest bic type pen looking "blade"/spear/sharp pointy thingy that looks just like a bic pen with a regular cap on it...he showed me two prototypes at a gun show in memphis recently...one was made of black G-10 and one was made of black micarta...both were sharpened like a pencil and had a bic pen cap on it....he handed me a bic pen that just was a bic pen and placed it in his inside pocket and then pulled it out again (doing a switch) and asked me to check out the ball point again...i pulled off the cap which was identical to the pen i just had written with and to my suprise i was holding a thrusting/stabbing weapon with a point like a sharpened pencil...workmanship was flawless...he had even copied the bic logo onto the barrel of the weapon....he plans to market these soon and i will keep you guys in touch about availability...a local dealer friend is going to try to get exclusive distribution on these...i know i will be in line for one or two at least as they will make the perfect hidden in plain sight weapon for the hospital in my white coat's top pocket with my other pens and doo-dads


FEVERDOC
 
crawford is NOT making these bic pen suprises....crawford's sheath maker is constructing them and has the "rights" to the idea,etc.....they are in the developmental stages only and he might let me "have" one in early january....i will keep you informed...feverdoc
 
Cool doc.. thanks for the info.. do not forget to share when you do =). I did not go to high school in the USA so I am probably spewing the obvious.. but arent the concealed ice pics in bic ballpens a standard home made weapon?

Well he;s the first to think to patent it so it's his..

I am looking forward to it.. I can never free up the time to make one on my own.
 
Well, Pat has been making spikes in Cross/Parker pens for quite some time, I don't know if he still does. The fruit does not fall far from the tree. Similar in concept, the execution is different.

As for the Ruler in plain sight, I think that is a great idea. 18 inch would be cool, 12 would do in a pinch. Approximately 3mm thick in Titanium. That would provide you with something you could really beat the snot out of someone with.

James makes flat sticks now in Titanium. Now to sell him on going through the trouble of farming the markings of the ruler out. Good luck.
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How about putting the ruler marks in Japanese or for that matter have them say anything in Japanese. After all it just has to LOOK like a ruler. Come to think of it you could do the same thing with the standard round models and claim they are a expensive barometers. I can see the explanations now. "Of course its got a pointed end and I'm carrying it in a sheath under my jacket how the hell, else am I going to do my meteorolgical surveys." "Well, yes officer I just thrust the tip into the ground and see if the depth is perfect for planting and growing mushrooms." "No, I'm not going to hit you with it."
 
I know I've seen thin steel self-adhesive scales in some catalog somewhere ... the idea is you can stick it to your workbench, or anywhere you want.

-Cougar :{)
 
I was speaking with James on this, funny, Cougar came up with the same thing.

Stainless Steel Ruler with added, stronger adhesive on the back...on a flat Titanium Stick.

Neat eh?
 
kinda like what i was talking about up above...except i was thinking about two rulers, flatedged, steel...save on the cost of Titanium, with the marks on both sides...
 
Al Mar use to make a steel dagger with a comb handle called "Wild Hair." When sheathed only the comb part stuck out.

How about an all steel (titanium?) handled comb. Handle configured for butt strikes, flat top for thrusts, strongly toothed for ripping.

There was a traveling exhibit that came through town a few years ago (which I missed) of Indonesian artifacts. The newspaper article mentioned that among the items displayed were assorted self-defense items for women. These were described (no pictures dammit) as assorted hair ornaments/implements that served a double function: hairpin daggers and most intriguing, a comb (the kind that holds hair together)that doubled as a tiger-claw weapon.

Does anyone with a Silat background know what these implements are called? Does anyone make them? Would Mr. Piorek be interested in a Women's protective line?
 
Check this place out:

http://www.familydefense.com/stealthdefense.htm

These look as if they will do the job and are dirt cheap, so they are disposable.

For weapons you can carry without anyone looking at you funny here are a few suggestions:

The v-gar belt
360 pivot knife from Delat-Z

I can't give my opinions on these because I don't have them. But I am looking forward to it.

The other day I was looking at scissors and was thinking about how they kinda look like a push dagger. I tried it out and it worked
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