Coffins, anyone?

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Stumbled across this funny link:
http://www.geocities.com/burn_62959/Rogerspage.html
They´re looking neat
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, does anyone have one of these "cases"? I especially like the one with the Microtech auto.

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"Peace is not without conflict; it is the ability to cope with conflict" - Leo Giron
 
You see something new every day. Very interesting. Is there a hidden message? Are the knives "dead"? Are the knives "vampires" (puncturing tools)?

They look like nice construction.

I'm asking myself..."Why"?

Ron
 
Very unusual knife cases. I suppose they could come in handy if your favourite knife has had it and you want to invite your friends over for a wake before it's burial.
One has to ask, what were they thinking?

 
Actually, some of you might be surprised to know that the word "casket" was a common word for "jewelry box" back in the 1800s.

The coffin has the flared out sides at the shoulders. That as well as a straight box was common, but they were called "coffins" and not caskets. A casket was a small trinket, jewelry or keepsafe box...

After embalming was invented, the Undertakers formed a large association and they promoted the idea that they were not "Undertakers" as that sounded morbid (like Mortician doesn't right?) and they started to refer to themselves as Funeral Directors.

Likewise, they wanted to shed the word "Coffin," so they took a common name for a Jewelry Box.

"You loved Granny as much as your rings and necklaces, right?" They never SAID that, they did not have to, the word said it all.

It was actually a very subtle, insidious, psychological marketing ploy...and it has stood the test of time.

I like them, they're neat and I just look at them differently I guess...



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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things
 
Nice work, but the design would worry many people as much as the content...

I could see how that would go down in court...

'your Honour, this individual has an abnormaly large knife collection and stored several in coffin shaped boxes. It is thus the prosecutions view that the obsession with weapons and death imagery proves that...'

I DON'T agree with that, but that is what sheeple would THINK.

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Wayne.
"To strive to seek to find and not to yield"
Tennyson
Ranger motto

A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/
Certified steel snob!
 
Sheesh -- I thought this thread was going to be about coffin-handled bowies.

-Cougar Allen :{)

You can't judge a thread by the title....
 
It makes no difference what they say in Court as they are going to crucify you anyway.

Especially in Britain, coming soon, to a country near you.
 
I suppose I could retort with the fact we have far less gun and knife crime than America, but I won't.

People always bash US Brits for not standing up and fighting for our rights, but in a democracy, the MAJORITY RULE. Guess what? Knife and gun nuts are in the MINORITY over here. Perhaps recent legislation is showing you lot what could happen? Don't assume that just because you have an opinion, that you will be respected by your govt, esp if it involves guns and knives. I predict a gradual tightening of laws in the good old US of A. It is happening as we speak...

Perhaps then you will understand what it is to be like a European.

Sorry if I sound annoyed, but what were we supposed to do? Blow up buildings or kill people to make a point? I would rather lose the right to own a gun, than kill people who are just enforcing the majority viewpoint. Otherwise I would be a terrorist.

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Wayne.
"To strive to seek to find and not to yield"
Tennyson
Ranger motto

A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/
Certified steel snob!
 
I would be a terrorist.

Oh, and I like the coffins too.

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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"Is not giving a need? Is not receiving mercy?" - Thus Spoke Zarathustra
"Cutting his throat is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about." - Lazarus Long
"Knowledge is not made for understanding; it is made for cutting." - Michel Foucault
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The General:
People always bash US Brits for not standing up and fighting for our rights, but in a democracy, the MAJORITY RULE.
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You are absolutely, 100% correct Sir. In a Democracy, The Majority Rules. A Pure Democracy is Mob Rule in point of fact. A Democracy is two wolves and one sheep, voting on what, and more importantly who is for dinner.

The United States of America is not, nor has it ever been, a Democracy. That is a fact, statements to the contrary should be ignored as they have no basis in fact. A Constitutional Republic.

Instead of polluting this Thread, and I would ask that the thread I am going to link to not be a Gateway to urinate on the ideas of a Republic, but just so I do not have to type everything out again, please, go read what I wrote in the thread. You might find it enlightening.

http://www.knifeforums.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001907.html
 
General,

By the way, I was working on something earlier and did not post everything I wanted to because I was in a hurry to go download something.

The purpose of my original statement was not to "slap" Brits, your Government, nor your way of life.

If you wish to live in that manner, by your own words in your above post, you are completely free to do so.

When I post something like that, it's as a warning to others that live here. To do something. To register to vote and to make choices carefully when they do vote.

I posted something in the Emerson Forum a few weeks ago, it was an Article Called, "Slippery Slopes" I believe. I don't know if you read it or not.

I think it is sad that the right to Self-defense has virtually been eliminated in your country. And it has.

Now, if I do not want my country to go the way of your's, is that an inherently terrible thing?

I don't think so at all.

We declared our Independence from Britain and fought for that Independence and the point that I try to make is, we are not Britain, we were not intended to be Britain, nor should we be Britain.

As for your statement about guns and knives and homicides here Vs. Britain, well, you have eliminated the right of Individuals to own handguns, yet, you have a growing gun problem.

How did that happen?

It happened because of people, firearms were never the problem.

That's the point. Nevermind the fact that Britain is much, much smaller than this country.

I hope you would take the words in the spirit they were intended instead of being offended and defensive.

 
That link is part of Paul Panak's, aka Burn web site. Paul is a custom maker of very nice Italian knives. Click on the back button from that link and you will see some nice work. Also, bet you would not have guessed that Paul is also a minister. I think the coffin case goes very well with a custom Italian knife inside.

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Aloha
 
Well done, Don Rearic.
This "ain't no stinkin democracy," it's a Constitutional Republic: the Law binds all, but gives freedom to all. Unless man stops being evil in his very nature, there's no better way to safeguard liberty from those who would remove it. i read your other post at your cited link; a most excellent response. i Even down-loaded it.
Hey, back to the topic, sort of; i've got a good friend named Coffin; he knows it means a vessel for treasure, no matter what it ~turned~ into! (If he were here, he might say to some of these folks: i resemble these remarks....)

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Clif :)
"Percival... I never knew how empty was my soul until it was filled."
Arthur the King upon sipping from the Grail.
 
I never argued that America was a Democracy, also I agree whole heartidly with you that guns were NEVER the problem. Well not guns owned by normal people. We had TWO cases in over ten years of simpleton nut cases, who were allowed to leagaly own a number of firearms, even though the police etc were repeatadly warned over these TWO people. It is my humble opinion that the police did not get involved as they at heart WANTED a total ban. This is my perspective on the situation. I am sorry if I thought you were attacking me or the British people. That was not good of me, I am sorry. However, my main point is that I personally would fight and die if the govt wanted to take away an IMPORTANT freedom. The right to carry a knife or a gun is quite important to me, but not the same as the right to vote or have an opinion. Our culture is quite different to yours, perhaps not in a good way. However, the British people WILL fight and have protested on mass on a number of issues (Poll tax and petrol prices for example). We are not cowards, but a restrained people who don't belive in shouting and attacking others at will. I am not suggesting that Americans or you do this, but as a people we do not stand up for the little things as much as we aught to, but we are fighters and we never surrender or yeild when the proverbial hits the fan. If I had your Federal govt, I would be very worried.
 
I consider the Right to Keep and Bear Arms to be one of the most basic, Human, Civil Rights there is in existence.

Why is that? You might ask...

Well, it cannot be because I fit the "popular" idea that I am a "Gun Nut," because I have not even touched a firearm in days, even though I own several of them.

It cannot be because I am an avid Hunter, because I am not. Although I have hunted, I have not hunted one season for about seven or eight years. I'm also not opposed to hunting either.

I don't gather in huddled little, armed groups of disenfranchised people to bitch and moan about things and disguise disenfranchisement with Patriotism and like to think they are the armed equivalent of The Masons.

I know Militias exist in this country and as I stated in the thread over at KFC, I have no problem with them whatsoever as long as they do not act out of imagined crisis, and in most cases, a real crisis that does not rise to the occasion for armed action.

I'm not affiliated with, associated with, or a member of any Militia, ever. Now or in the past and don't envision I will be in the future either. I don't have time for it and I personally think that alot of them are counterproductive to the goals that I seek which is preservation of rights...

I do not consider them "Domestic Terrorists" either. I think that is a load. That is a fearful Government.

Considering the words of a Great Man, George Washington;

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force! And like fire, it is a dangerous Servant and a fearful Master."

No one ever accused the British People of being cowards. Not in this Thread.

Self-defense is indeed illegal in Britain, and there is evidence to support that statement.

The reason I support the Second Amendment is, I believe it is a basic Human and Civil Right, as I stated before. It is not about duck and deer hunting...nor is it about punching holes in paper or tin cans. Although those things are not prohibited by it either.

I don't think there is a more legitimate Civil and Human Right than that of Self-preservation. Without it, what do you have?

If someone attacks you and you cannot legally defend yourself, are you free? Are you safe? Of course not. Unless your idea of freedom and safety is being unarmed, the other guy being armed and you being legally bound not to resist with force.

The two countries are different. Yet, one sprung from the other and the Founders of this country were simply trying to retain their Rights as Englishmen that they had before The Crown became oppressive.

In short, when we use Britain as a warning, don't be offended. If you do not like the situation, you are free to come here and I encourage that.

This is what America is for. It is supposed to be the shining light of Liberty and I hope that continues.

I don't consider any person to be free when they stick a common penknife into a mugger and then they are arrested for using a common penknife on a mugger and that happened in Britain with an American Woman who was a tourist there. She was not charged because she was American, she was charged because she broke British Law. The same thing can happen to someone that lives there.

The important thing to remember is, by arresting her, the British Government violated her Civil and Human Right to Self-preservation. That's what you have to keep in mind.


 
Sam,

Nope, just read too much for my own good. If everyone did, I don't think we would be in this mess.

Thomas Paine is an interesting character on his own...if I remember correctly, he was not born here. He came over as an adult, I think, which means that his firebrand commentary on Britain at the time is not mere sour grapes from a disgruntled Colonist.

This Nation is far from perfect, but I believe it is the best Nation that has ever been.

I also want people to know this is not a Democracy and to approach all Societal Issues with that in mind.

I consider the right to Self-defense and the right to keep and bear arms to be every bit as legitimate a civil and human right as integration of bathrooms...

This country was very backward for a long time, separating restrooms and water fountains and all manner of absurdity...I see no reason to take a step back and take away fundamental civil rights...

Jim March has done a ton (more than a ton actually) of research on the roots of the gun control laws of this country. They are racist in nature. The next set of Draconian nonsense came from Prohibition and brought another phase of gun control on the Federal Level...

I think we need to take a hard look at what we want to be. I don't want to be told what I can own to save my own life, I don't want to be arrested for merely wanting to live or save the life of a Loved One. I don't want to be told what Doctor I can go to, or what Doctor I have to take my Child to. All things that come from Socialism.

Robin Hood is a fine story, when it becomes a basis for Governmental Philosophy, it is slavery.

 
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