Cold Steel’s plan for rust proof knives?

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insta9ves

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Hi Cold Steel, I wonder if there’s any plan to produce series of rust proof knives similar to Spyderco’ Salt line or Benchmade’s H2O line.
I think there’s a market for some strong outdoor knife that don’t rust.
Spyderco make a few models with LC200N steel in Taiwan so I wonder if the steel supply is not hard to get. With Cold Steel’s linerless design it should be rather easy to transition to rust proof material and steel.
Anyway just a thought.
 
Could be useful for sweaty people to edc too. I’ve been carrying my Salt knives more during the summer, to the gym, edc etc since my knife often get sweaty sometimes and I’ve seen s35vn rust from it. Would love to carry a maintenance free Cold steel folder.
 
:) I don't have any complaints about rusting of my CS knives under most normal conditions . But I wanted a beach knife that I could carry in and out the salt water all day and not worry over .

It would be great to have CS fill this need . Maybe a rustproof , orange handled BT2 ?

 
Having rustproof steel isn't really necessary for filming videos of some guy cutting slabs of hanging meat...
 
Cold Steel Knives said:
I don't have any information to provide at this time unfortunately. It has been discussed and is discussed in an ongoing manner. Spyderco's Salt knives are made in Japan, not Taiwan, which is why they're expensive for having FRN scales. LC200 isn't cheap, especially to make a Tri-Ad lock out of.
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Btw there are a couple Salt models made in TW too, especially the LC200N one like the Caribbean and the Spydiechef. In fact i think Japan Salt are H1 only, LC200N is almost exclusively Golden and TW made.
Cost is def a factor, TBH I’d happily pay $150+ for a rustproof Lawman.
 
The only CS blade I ever had an issue with discoloration with was Carbon V, and even then it didn't rust. Even for a Salt, there's no such thing as no maintenance if you actually use it.
 
DocJD said:
Neither is your trolling !

But , actually , blood and other bodily fluids can be quite corrosive .
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What "bodily fluids" are 6" long, hawkbilled, recurved folders typically exposed to on a regular basis?

Seems to me that carbon steel hunting knives have worked just fine for lots of people for lots of years without any issues with "corrosive" bodily fluids :rolleyes:
 
chris0827 said:
What "bodily fluids" are 6" long, hawkbilled, recurved folders typically exposed to on a regular basis?

Seems to me that carbon steel hunting knives have worked just fine for lots of people for lots of years without any issues with "corrosive" bodily fluids :rolleyes:
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:eek::poop: Sure ...by the same logic , why bother with even so called "stainless" , stay with what works for you ! :rolleyes:

But , here's my most used kitchen knife . Right up your alley . Main bodily fluid exposure is raw pineapple . :p:thumbsup:

 
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insta9ves said:
Btw there are a couple Salt models made in TW too, especially the LC200N one like the Caribbean and the Spydiechef. In fact i think Japan Salt are H1 only, LC200N is almost exclusively Golden and TW made.
Cost is def a factor, TBH I’d happily pay $150+ for a rustproof Lawman.
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Maybe $125. :)
 
If OP do the upkeep on the "carbon steel hunting knives" they will do just fine. The problem is that a lot of people did not do that hence the move to "stainless steel". Just look at the condition of most WWI/WWII military knives/swords/bayonets, just think if they had been made of stainless.
 
DocJD said:
:eek::poop: Sure ...by the same logic , why bother with even so called "stainless" , stay with what works for you ! :rolleyes:

But , here's my most used kitchen knife . Right up your alley . Main bodily fluid exposure is raw pineapple . :p:thumbsup:

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So your carbon steel knife is basically proving my point by saying that corrosion resistance isn't an issue...
 
C chris0827 - Feel free to get out of this thread if you don't like/need rust proof knives, very glad that you got your needs and desire covered and you know perfectly well how to take care of your knife. The world could use more people like you who knows how to take care of their tool and are willing to impose their wisdom on others.

We don't need to get into how you'll never need rustproof knives if you just take care of carbon steel knives. If I just drive carefully I'd never need to have seatbelts or airbags. I'd hate to see this turn into another one of those typical bladeforums thread whenever people talked about stuff like lock strength, or hard use knives - "right tool for right job" blah blah blah.

This thread was created mainly to talk about the merits of having rust proof knives similar to Salt series of folders in Cold Steel's line up, and if CS has plan for it or in CS' opinion whether there's a market for them to do this, since there seem to be a few companies starting to pick up from it, including the new ones like Terrain 365.

If there's one, great! If there's none, fine, i'll just keep oiling my knife or carry my Spyderco Salts that i like less that CS folders.
 
I think there is a huge market for extremely rust-resistant/proof knives for fishing, boating, humid climates, and very active, sweaty sports. Even various types of diving. But they have to be affordable since it is easy to lose knives in such environments, too. A knife left in a tackle box is a hard test of rust proofness. A small handy knife for cutting lines and ropes, serrated or as an option. A long thin fillet. A long strong blade for braining a large catch. A sheepsfoot with Marlin spike.

Many of these styles have been done but CS has a reputation for affordable, strong knives. LC200N? Other steel?
 
chris0827 said:
So your carbon steel knife is basically proving my point by saying that corrosion resistance isn't an issue...
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Nope ! I'm more saying that , yes : the good old carbon tool steel will do the job . :):thumbsup:

But , it does require a much higher level of maintenance . How much more depending on the type of steel /HT and the exact conditions of usage . :(:thumbsdown:
 
I hope CS is still considering this. Spyderco just release a new line of LC200N Pacific Salt and the salt series had been really popular. An LC200N lawman with marine-grade hardware i.e. 304SS would be my dream "Salt" knives.

@DemkoKnives would love to hear your though on this(even if it's unofficial personal opinion). I probably shouldn't bug you, but given that you are more engaged than the Cold Steel mod here, and it seems people are grasping the straw trying to get their feedback heard..

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If CS wanted to do a rustproof knife I'm not sure LC200N is necessary. The corrosion resistance is great, but cost is high and edge holding is so-so. Toughness is high on paper but that's only because it's so soft. When it's new it rolls if you look at it sideways. It seems to improve after you sharpen it a lot. I once rolled the edge on my Caribbean just cutting up 2 light cardboard boxes. Seriously.
Some cheaper steels like BD1N and 14C28N have higher edge retention and nearly as high corrosion resistance according to Knife Steel Nerds data. LC200N is the fad steel of the moment like M390 was last year, but time will tell if it stays popular. One reason I'm not as down on 4034SS as others is LC200N has accustomed me to steel that won't hold an edge.
A rustproof knife is a great concept. I bought my Carib to carry while running or bicycling and ended up using it almost always. You can use it in the garage, then wash it with soap and water and use it to open food packages. I don't mind sharpening it often, but others might.
 
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