Cold Steel - Are you ever going to produce an automatic knife?

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Comeuppance

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I'm a fan of Cold Steel knives and have always appreciated how they seem to have every market covered. No matter where my tastes and budget takes me, there's a Cold Steel product that I want. Unsurprisingly, I have pretty much always had at least one Cold Steel knife since 2012.

The only place where I'm not covered is Automatics, which is honestly just weird to me.

I would really like to see some automatic variants of existing knives, like the Counter Point series or the Recon series, but I would also be interested to see what kind of brand new designs would come out to showcase the automatic feature instead of shoehorning it into existing models.
 
I second that very good question. It would be very interesting to see what they could come up with!
 
If we are talking plunge locks i have no interest. Plenty of choices already. Now if we are talking some kind of innovation like a triad auto......im in and with lots of hard cash.
 
jbmonkey said:
If we are talking plunge locks i have no interest. Plenty of choices already. Now if we are talking some kind of innovation like a triad auto......im in and with lots of hard cash.
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For real. I can only agree strongly.
 
Jonslaught said:
C'mon brah, they like JUST came out with an assisted...
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Even tho i think it's not a good design, from personal experience....

But yeah not that i like auto, but it would be interested to see how they can fit an auto mechanism on the triad lock.

Remember the old Tiger Claw design where they use a different variation of thumbstud released triad lock? I think that might work. You can probably use the thumbstub lock release to fire the blade, much like how Benchmade Axis Auto works..
 
Isn't Cold Steel still in California? If they are, they would probably not produce autos. CA is not an auto friendly state, even for LEO's, if I've read correctly. Maybe they would have to open a facility outside of CA to build autos. Expensive proposition.
 
Yeah, it's still not legal to own autos in many states(same with balisongs), so making one is a bit riskier in sales terms than most products.
 
cbxer55 said:
Isn't Cold Steel still in California? If they are, they would probably not produce autos. CA is not an auto friendly state, even for LEO's, if I've read correctly. Maybe they would have to open a facility outside of CA to build autos. Expensive proposition.
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They don't build anything. It would be a matter of finding a company somewhere in the US to build them. Probably not worth the investment for a niche market like autos.
 
CS could sell them out of their Arizona office. It shouldn't affect production as most products are not made in California anyway.
 
cbxer55 said:
Isn't Cold Steel still in California? If they are, they would probably not produce autos. CA is not an auto friendly state, even for LEO's, if I've read correctly. Maybe they would have to open a facility outside of CA to build autos. Expensive proposition.
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shouldn't matter. isn't protech in cali? and builds big autos and small ones there?
 
The most appropiate CS folder to be an automatic would be the TiLite series.

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They'd be the true classic Italian stilettos resurrected.

Other models would be really nice, though. I'd kill for an auto version of either of these: :D

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An auto Gunsite (or equivalent) would be awesome! ^^

I would also say this would be a fine time for them to produce a XHP 4"-bladed version of the Tuff Lite with an auto feature.
 
They would have to have them made by a US company or convert them after importing them. Either one is probably more than they want to tackle, but who knows.
 
And, with few exceptions, it's felony to ship them across state lines as assembled knives or as parts. Such items are subject to seizure as contraband.

Every once and a while, the G enforces the law.

And it applies to manufacturers , wholesalers, or retailers. Ask Spyderco.

15 U.S.C. § 1242:
"Whoever knowingly introduces, or manufactures for introduction,
into interstate commerce, or transports or distributes in
interstate commerce, any switchblade knife, shall be fined not more
than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

That's per offense.

So if you're in Kalafornia the market, for practical purposes, is that state, where the politicians don't like - oh, lots of things. California Penal Code 17235 PC & 21510 PC
 
So how do Microtech, ProTech, Kershaw, Benchmade, Piranha, etc get away with it? Seems like they would have stopped ages ago if they were getting slapped with $2K fines every time they make a shipment.
 
Comeuppance said:
So how do Microtech, ProTech, Kershaw, Benchmade, Piranha, etc get away with it? Seems like they would have stopped ages ago if they were getting slapped with $2K fines every time they make a shipment.
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You know that many laws are not enforced regularly - sometimes at all. It depends on those in power. It's politics, which we cannot discuss here.

The Illinois Department of Revenue, in a ten year period, found that over 85% of the small businesses audited had failed to report significant amounts of income. The conviction or admission rate was over 98%. The only limiting factor was the budget for audits.

They violate the law and get away with it. Until, like Spyderco, they don't.
OAKLAND - LAWFUEL - American Law Newswire - United States Attorney Scott N. Schools announced that Spyderco, Inc., a Colorado corporation, pleaded guilty and was sentenced today to mailing butterfly knives, which are nonmailable, to pay a $75,000 criminal fine, a $125 special assessment, and to forfeit all such knives seized by the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement from its corporate offices in Golden, Colorado (estimated to be valued at over $400,000). The guilty plea and sentence is the result of an investigation by United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement ("ICE").

In pleading guilty, Spyderco admitted that from June 2005 through January 2007, it had mailed butterfly knives, after importing the knife components from Taipei, Taiwan, through the Port of San Francisco and the Port of Oakland, to Golden, Colorado. The U.S. Customs and Border Patrol had issued a ruling to Spyderco holding that these knives fit the definition of "switchblade knives" as an imported knife "with a blade which opens automatically by operation of inertia, gravity, or both" and were therefore not allowed into the United States pursuant to the Switchblade Knife Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1241-1245, and were further not to be mailed in the United States.

Spyderco agreed to issue a Notice of Recall on its internet site for these butterfly knives and to mail this recall notice to reasonably identifiable customers. Spyderco also agreed not to import, transport, distribute, manufacture, sell, introduce, or attempt to introduce into interstate commerce knives defined as switchblades under the Switchblade Knife Act, in violation of the law.
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Do you feel lucky?
 
^wasnt that due to foreign made balis being imported illegally mainly. Not so much due to distributing them or their auto knives being made here? Least that's what i remember. I read what you quoted but sure doesnt match what i remember. Course once the govt gets you on one thing there is nothing to stop them from piling on charges whether they stick or not. That's where these lawyers sure come in handy.
 
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