Cold Steel Counter Point XL - it's the right thing to do!

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Awww MANNNNN!! :( I'm just starting this thread to be sad that there ain't no Counter Point XL!! Why can't you Mr. Thompson make us a HONKIN, six" handle / five inch blade, 11.5" or 12" total length, CP XL?? Me love you long time :D.

I have both the CP1 and the 2. Bad boys. I'm kind of a nerd in every day life but i like the CP series somewhat because of their nasty appearance to be honest. Also think they are well built, maybe a few F+F quirks but definitely a good design well planned and executed plus the smoothest example of Tri-ad to date.

What do you guys think? An XL with maybe an upgrade to VG-1, or maybe even a step up from that to 154cm / S30V or so...but keep the Grivory [it's good stuff!] and the AUS8 liners to keep the price reasonable [$90??- $100?]. ?? I'd be all over it, might not use it so much but man o man!
 
Interesting idea. I have the 6" Ti-lite. It's fun to play with but I've never carried it yet. Do you know if CS has ever used S30V?
 
I absolutely agree that there should be an XL Counterstrike and perhaps there will be one offered next year. CS did come out with the 6" blade Hold-Out this year, which I'm snapping up as soon as it reaches my local store.
I don't care about "upgraded" steel , AUS- 8 is fine with me.
 
schoolbus said:
Interesting idea. I have the 6" Ti-lite. It's fun to play with but I've never carried it yet. Do you know if CS has ever used S30V?
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No, S30V is made by CPM and is available in America only.

CS would have to make massive infrastructure changes to move manufacturing back here. Basically, you will never see a CS knife in S30V.

Personally, I don't care much for S30V to begin with so I don't care.
 
S30V is available wherever they can ship it, Spyderco Taiwanese knives are mostly S30V. AUS8 is Japanese steel from Aichi, and the CS folders are also Taiwanese.

That said, CS has no particular motivation to pay for more expensive steel.
 
Seems silly to me to ship steel to Taiwan to make a knife out of and then ship it back here..
 
As I understand it, the major cost in using wear resistant steels is more about machining costs though.

And does the labor cost really trump the shipping costs going both ways?
 
res1cue said:
Seems silly to me to ship steel to Taiwan to make a knife out of and then ship it back here..
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The net cost of manufacturing overseas and shipping back is most likely cheaper than making them here. Also, the tooling and machines for specific knives are located, in this case, Taiwan. Would cost more to ship the machinery back here :)
 
Labor costs in Taiwan aren't so much better than the US, but it is cheaper in the short run to have a quality manufacturer overseas produce your product over finding a location, outfitting a factory, and hiring/training workers in the US. Spyderco in golden can only make so much product, and expansion is expensive.
 
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