Cold Steel fanboys...What can I say?

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I was watching a couple videos on youtube when suddenly a cold steel addict started bitching at me about how dare I insult cold steel's marketing, they make the strongest knives in the world! It drew me into an argument I did not wish to have, but I felt the need to shut him up. Yes, the triad lock is strong. Yes, cold steel makes some fantastic strong fighting knives. Yes, I love my new voyager for heavy use. HOWEVER, they are not the only strong knife out there. Thousands can testify to how strong the Axis lock is, and benchmade uses much superior materials as well as fit and finish. If cold steel could use some VG-10 or 154cm in their blades, I would be a bigger fan. So of course the spokesmen on the channel pops up and says this.

"we provide exceptional performance at reasonable prices and we always have. Our tests and our proof videos speak for themselves. If you want a tough, dependable, razor sharp knife that will stay strong and dependable and never let you down, Cold Steel is the right choice every time. We've got a hard earned reputation for quality that we are very proud of."

Well, what can I say. Most of the time their products do have a reasonable price tag, however AUS-8 made in taiwan? Should be cheaper to me. Yes you can slash a damn pig with your knife, but can I not do that with my SOG trident? So I decided to respond to them and address the issue that we had, we were talking materials not lock strength, which seems to be the only thing cold steel can comprehend. So I said..

"Honestly, a few points here. Yes your knives are strong, but we're not asking for strong. The axis lock is strong. We're asking for better handle materials like micarta, better steels like VG-10 or 154CM that have better edge retention, and better fit and finish. My recon 1 came out of box with a bent tip and all your company said was "Well it must have happened in shipping, no way it left our facility in that condition" Being made in taiwan, I'm amazed they don't come out of box missing screws."

Anyone else get aggravated by this? Or am I blowing a brain vessel due to my own personal pet peeve of brand myopia?
 
This topic has been covered several times already. No need to beat the horse corpse anymore than it already has been.
 
cold steel is well aware of the higher end steels and handle materials, but their main target market wouldn't appreciate the difference.

I think their knives are a bad value personally. you pay mostly for their marketing and the triad lock, neither of which I care to pay for.
 
seelow123 said:
This topic has been covered several times already. No need to beat the horse corpse anymore than it already has been.
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You know what other dead horse has been beaten? That line.
Ya sure, the topic may have been discussed in one form or another. You don't have to participate in the thread! If you have nothing relevant to say then you don't have to say anything at all.
Maybe you could even be helpful and post a link to a similar thread? Since there are apparently hundreds of them.
 
You can see from what they say about their knives that the knives are intended for people who know nothing about knives. "Sharpest" knives in the world? What do they mean by that? I'd rather have a dull CRK than a sharp SRM; I don't really care how sharp the knife comes from the factory because no matter what, I'm going to make it sharper than they ever could on a single grit grinder.

And sure, they make knives that are decent, but I think too many people make the mistake of assuming that "cheap" means "value." Just because it doesn't cost as much as some other knives out there doesn't mean that there are other knives in their exact price bracket that surpass them in quality, materials, finish, and warranty.
 
agreed. I also get annoyed when people describe a knife as being "sharp"
Like in knife reviews; "this knife is very sharp." That doesn't matter! It will dull! I can sharpen it on my own. ANY steel you use can be sharpened.
I don't care how sharp YOUR knife is at that particular moment. I care about features of the knife that I can't change. Important features. Like: "this knife is not made out of crap aus-8"
 
I agree it's dumb to advertise knives as the sharpest knives around.. but I really do care if I get a brand new dull/poorly sharpened knife. I am buying a KNIFE after all....
 
Haha How am I not surprised to see Tsujigiri in this thread. So you were just watching a coldsteel video and someone online started bitching at you? Is that even possible?Oh right, you went on to a Coldsteel video just to add negative comments about things you already know.You already know they use Aus 8, you already know they are made in Taiwan , you already know the Axis lock is strong too, you already know how they market their knives..Why comment on a video about those things to people who are obviously interested in the product ? Were you trying to turn people away from Coldsteel? I just don't get that mentality. I don't go to a video about a slip joint and bash it because it doesn't have a lock.
 
It seems like there is way more cold steel haters than fans. AUS8 is great all around stainless steel, comparable to 440C, the golden standard.
 
one would think that after years of ownership and BF foruming, the knife market would have become efficient: people know exactly what they want and what they pay for.
 
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brandonc said:
It seems like there is way more cold steel haters than fans. AUS8 is great all around stainless steel, comparable to 440C, the golden standard.
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I don't think that is necessarily true, Brandon. There are a lot of members on these forums that own and enjoy CS knives, myself among them. It is interesting that you mention 440C, as that is one of my favorite steels. I have lost track of the number of 'super steels' that I have, yet as often as not, one of my AUS-8 Recons or VG-1 Voyagers finds it's home in my pocket. As hair-brained as the advertising may seem, in the final analysis, CS knives do perform as advertised. As for fanboys and haters, just two sides of the same mold. ;)
 
I'm not sure why the advertising would bother someone, A lot of knife companies are making tactical knives Cold Steel just shows them in action.Spyderco has tactical knives too, only they don't show them being tested in anyway so you're gambling with it's ability in such a situation.I'm not saying they would fail but I don't see how showing it performing the tasks that it's designed for is a bad thing.
 
I am inclined to agree. Some 'Metro Marys' with queasy stomachs can't handle the meat cutting, but all it does for me is make me hungry. :)

I have never been able to figure out, that the same people that decry the dual ability of a knife, often have no problem with strapping on a Glock that has a single purpose. Of course, maybe it is just me. :rolleyes:
 
IMO the reason behide peopl getting hi-end steel blade are not about the real usage perfromance. It just to be proud having some awesome stuff.
If i lucky enough to have some custom s110v 1000$ blade then it sure be on the wall, ofc.
 
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it might have more to do with the tone of comparison. if you simply demonstrate your product's performance on a stand-alone basis, that's the end of it. complicated end-user products (such as knives) actually depend more on customer feedback and testimony. their word-of-mouth is more effective than any type of broadcasted/published advertising. that's why few knife makers advertize the way CS does.

what i admire with cold steel is their design philosophy which is a mix of practical needs (for serious users) and a wide range of concepts (appeals to collectors.) and lyn thompson has no doubt educated a lot of knife fanciers at one time. i was one of them.
 
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frenchmade said:
Maybe you could even be helpful and post a link to a similar thread? Since there are apparently hundreds of them.
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There is a search function. Right there at the top-right corner of the page.
 
A.P.F. said:
I am inclined to agree. Some 'Metro Marys' with queasy stomachs can't handle the meat cutting, but all it does for me is make me hungry. :)

I have never been able to figure out, that the same people that decry the dual ability of a knife, often have no problem with strapping on a Glock that has a single purpose. Of course, maybe it is just me. :rolleyes:
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Exactly and I am sure there are tons of videos on youtube of glocks being fired into ballistic gel and other proof of it's ability to do it's job.
 
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