I am intersted in "Caledonian edge" and "KONJO" by Cold steel. They are both made of VG-1 steel. Anybody in this forum have these knives? I would like to here opinions about them before I buy them. I never had a cold steel knives. Does cold steel make good knives? would like to ask one more thing, what kinds of steel to they use other than the VG-1 in these laminated blades? Please tell me.
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Well never really heard of VG1 but it probably is a very much cheaper form of VG10. Now why they just didn't use VG10 is beyond me but that being said I just wouldn't own it. NOw that is not to say I don't CS knives cause I do. And am particularly impressed with the Recon1 folders in G10 and AUS8a. Those are very heavy duty use knives and well made as is are the old Voyager series of knives I have and the 2 fixed blades I own.
I think for user quality knives and maybe some of there higher end fixed blades I think for the most part they make a fine product. Not withstanding their advertising thing. Well keepem sharp
I think for user quality knives and maybe some of there higher end fixed blades I think for the most part they make a fine product. Not withstanding their advertising thing. Well keepem sharp
I have the Konjo II. It's razor sharp and very nice looking, but the handle is really thin. I'm sure that with the full-length tang it would stand up to a good amount of torque, but it is probably not the best thing for a fighter. The lack of a guard also makes this a so-so choice for stabbing.
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This is an easily stirred pot. I will try to answer with out stirring it.
If you can separate the marketing and personalities from the hardware, many people think that CS sells a decent blade (they do not make their own knives), although their` laminated offerings are pretty pricey.
VG1 is pretty close in composition to 440C roughly the same proportions of Carbon and Chromium. It does not have the other constituents that VG10 has, so it is less expensive than VG10. I have not yet tried it, so cannot give you info on hardness (the result of the heat treat) or actual performance.
I think the other steels in the laminated San Mai are 420. I would expect the performance of the San Mai to be like that of 440C laminated between 420. The 420 would add tooughness. The edge retension would be similar to 440C. These are theoretical expectations. I have not tried the laminated and am unlikely to. I don't need that type of performance and the stuff costs a lot.
Now I'm going to duck.
If you can separate the marketing and personalities from the hardware, many people think that CS sells a decent blade (they do not make their own knives), although their` laminated offerings are pretty pricey.
VG1 is pretty close in composition to 440C roughly the same proportions of Carbon and Chromium. It does not have the other constituents that VG10 has, so it is less expensive than VG10. I have not yet tried it, so cannot give you info on hardness (the result of the heat treat) or actual performance.
I think the other steels in the laminated San Mai are 420. I would expect the performance of the San Mai to be like that of 440C laminated between 420. The 420 would add tooughness. The edge retension would be similar to 440C. These are theoretical expectations. I have not tried the laminated and am unlikely to. I don't need that type of performance and the stuff costs a lot.
Now I'm going to duck.
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I like my x2 voyager in vg1
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Beats me. Think at least some of the are made in Japan. Think others are made in Taiwan. Their Carbon V blades were said to have been made by Camillus. I don't think any of their current blades are made in the US.
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My intent is not to stir the pot either but I've now read enough posts to understand why some are biased against Cold Steel. I bought a Master Hunter in Carbon V made in the US and it's a fine hard use knife. I also have a Pro Lite (AUS6, Taiwan) from a trade that is tough, well made, and a lot of folder for use that would abuse a nice small slip joint. That being said, I fault only their imported products (maybe all now, I'm not sure). There are many, many knives of US manufacture that are affordable and good values so I don't have to choose imported.
I fault other companies for not giving enough or even any information about their knives: HC stainless? 400 series stainless? A standard for 80 years? Since 1890? Sharpest out of the box? A Name You Can Depend On? (substitute your own dates and slogans). All that kind of ad jargon tells me nothing! If you search hard enough, more information can be found but it's the exception. For example, Buck has a good website content, and there are others equally informative.
At least Cold Steel tells and shows us something. They hang weights from their folder handles, cut rope, slice tubing, bend blades in a vice, and throw folders. Maybe it's schlocky but at least it's an attempt to go beyond a name or a slogan. They also do their own demos without using an ad agency with male models. Maybe the CD is a lot of visual stuff without quantitative comparisons, but at least it's there and it's free! Cold Steel gets an A for effort. When another mass manufacturer produces a CD that is better, I'll reconsider my opinion. Regards, ss.
I fault other companies for not giving enough or even any information about their knives: HC stainless? 400 series stainless? A standard for 80 years? Since 1890? Sharpest out of the box? A Name You Can Depend On? (substitute your own dates and slogans). All that kind of ad jargon tells me nothing! If you search hard enough, more information can be found but it's the exception. For example, Buck has a good website content, and there are others equally informative.
At least Cold Steel tells and shows us something. They hang weights from their folder handles, cut rope, slice tubing, bend blades in a vice, and throw folders. Maybe it's schlocky but at least it's an attempt to go beyond a name or a slogan. They also do their own demos without using an ad agency with male models. Maybe the CD is a lot of visual stuff without quantitative comparisons, but at least it's there and it's free! Cold Steel gets an A for effort. When another mass manufacturer produces a CD that is better, I'll reconsider my opinion. Regards, ss.
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I believe that Lasher in South Africa make the Cold Steel machete and kukhri , tho I could well be wrong about that .
If Im right , the cheapo falcon brand stuff would be the equivilent of a cold steel one Im guessing .
As for the marketing , its interesting , but disapointing , especialy the latest rip-offs of other designs , yeah ... cold steal is a better name I reckon .
If Im right , the cheapo falcon brand stuff would be the equivilent of a cold steel one Im guessing .
As for the marketing , its interesting , but disapointing , especialy the latest rip-offs of other designs , yeah ... cold steal is a better name I reckon .