Cold Steel Quality

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I first noticed Cold Steel a few years ago in a SMKW catalog. "A $9.99 Covert Action Tanto?" My initial impression was that Cold Steel was another Poorman. Cheaply made, cheaply sold. But since I've been hanging around knife forums, I get the idea that some people have high opinions of Cold Steel. So help me out here, does Cold Steel make a good knife or no?
 
Stu:

I wouldn't rate them as poor man's knife. Their blades are sharp and they have flex. I own a couple of them and are quite pleased. The SRK is all I asked for and the Bushman is a decent utility knife. I don't own any folders from them though.
 
Cold Steel knives are of very good quality. I have owned an SRK for a few years now and am very pleased with it.
 
Cold Steel knives are of very good quality. I have owned an SRK for a few years now and I am very satisfied with its performance.
 
I have a Master Tanto and it is very nice, just not what I am looking for in a fixed blade.
I do plan to get a Recon scout or an SRK here someday soon.
I would say they are good knives.

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Just wanted to add that the 9.99 Covert Tanto is an all zytel knife...no steel in this one at all! Dont know if you have a need for something like that or not ???. Other than that I have quite a few CS knives and I like them all.




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~Keith~
"War to the knife and knife to the hilt"

 
i'm glad someone finally said that the CAT was zytel. i have a few cold steels. i love the blade design and they have good handles on them. there are better knives out there, but cold steels are excellent.
 
I've got a CS Vaquero Grande and a 4" Voyager and they're both pretty good. Very sharp out of the box and feels solid. Those microserrations are always a problem on Cold Steels but they do cut well. Don't own a fixed blade yet so I'm not too sure about them. About that Covert Action Tanto, when I first saw it in a catalogue I thought wow, just $10 for a Tanto. I soon realized it was made entirely out of Zytel. Can it even cut? What's the story behind it?

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ET:
I believe the covert action tanto (CAT tanto) was developed as a weapon that can pass through a metal detector. Because it is all-Zytel, obviously it isn't designed for cutting but as a stabbing or impact weapon.
BTW, a new law is being passed in CA that outlaws non-metallic knives.
Jim
 
RE: Quality of Cold Steel Knives

I would say that they are among the top end of the production knife market when it comes to quality and price. Several of their fixed blades are excellent: Recon Scout, Trailmaster Bowie, CS "Kukri", etc.,

I don't care much for their folders, as I don't like unlined Zytel handles. (I do, however, carry a Voyager Tanto as a backup to my backup in case I lose both my gun, fixed blade and Benchmade Axis.)
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I still hold that there is no standard of quality to CS knives. Some are high-price, high-polish collectors pieces, others are excellent mid-range work blades, some are pure junk. And of course they have many products that aren't knives at all. In my mind they are more distributor than manufacturer.

The "CAT" tanto has been reviewed on this board, do a search of last year's archives. As I recall the verdict was taht it did not, indeed, cut. As a thrusting weapon it is the height of stupidity, as the tanto is the single worst shape (after the sheepsfoot) for pure penetration.

People need to stop making non-metallic knives that look like "normal" knives. the role of such an item is very different and does not include much cutting - its shape should reflect this.

-Drew
 
I do like some of Cold Steel's fixed blades. I am not a fan of any of their folders.
 
I too am a fan of their fixed knives. I love the carbon V steel since it seems to hold an edge better than any of my other production blades ( unfortunately I don't have an INFI bladed knife yet) I find them goos value for the money.
 
I started spending serious money on knives just this summer. Most of that was spent on Cold Steel:

ER-1
Bushman
Gunsite Folder
Vaquero Grande
Magnum Tanto XII
Stag Trailmaster

The cheapest dealers I've found are Wholesale Hunter and Top of Texas. They seem good and reliable, answering all my e-mail questions.

I also have my dad's SRK, and just ordered a Black Bear Classic over the weekend.

The ER-1 would make a heavy cardboard knife and goes through rolled newspaper, but I can't keep those serrations sharp. It no longer shaves.

The look of the $10 one piece, hollow handled Bushman was cheesy out of the box, and surprisingly, it was not sharp (the only one). That was easily fixed. Now it's a razor, and part of my emergency survival kit. It's a little machete. It would make a nice spearhead. You simply must try one, just for the novelty of a good $10 carbon steel knife, claimed to take two tons of pressure at the blade/handle, as opposed to that CAT Tanto.

Finding my dad's SRK in the closet after he died was a surprise, and the reason I bought Cold Steel this year. The blade felt thick and clumsy at the time, and I didn't like the blackened blade. The tip felt blunt. However, it was surprisingly sharp, and makes a light wood chopper. The only real disappointment was the cheap look and feel of the kraton handle. I carry it in my car for emergencies.

The Vaquero Grande in particular proved itself slicing through rolled up newspapers hundreds of times with its needle sharp serrations. I have not been able to sharpen it to satisfaction since however, even with a Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker 204. Now at least, it's not good for harder material, either. I tried sawing some heavy cardboard roll just last night. It's a great bread knife. I'm sure it's a fine fighting knife when sharp. I still wear it around the house. Flicks open fine, and locks tight. I love the grip size and shape.

The Gunsite can take the finest of hair off my wrist and back of my hand without effort, but makes a poor slasher of my rolled up newspapers, even with a semi-serrated edge. Of course it's terrific on soft material and food. I'm afraid I don't understand why some people say a tanto tip is a poor stabber. I'm sure the Gunsite folder can go through a car roof undamaged, as Cold Steel claims. The lock is a little tight. It takes a little practice to flick open. Locks open tight. The Zytel handles look and feel cheap. The clip is a molded part of the handle. I like the VG metal clip better. I leave it unused for best performance if I ever need it to defend my house.

The Magnum Tanto XII is a great toy. It shaved easily and can go through banana tree without resistance. Next time I go home, I want to try slashing manila rope. I don't know how, but it got dull and scratched after my light testing. The kraton grip makes it look cheap, but feels ok. The balance is good for me. The steel pommel would hurt. I doubt the 12 inch tanto can be put trough a car door without bending or damage, like the six inch. The sheath is stiff and cheap looking.

Until I picked up a custom made Japanese hunting knife, a Saji Kamui, my stag handled Trailmaster was my favorite knife to look at and hold. The brass tarnished rather quickly, and now that I know the stag handled has just a 1/3 length stub tang, I won't use it for chopping 2x4s or breaking concrete blocks, like the kraton handled in the CS video. It is one of my special knives kept for display. Carbon V needs to be kept oiled.

I played with some Scimitars at the Seki Cutlery Festival last month. The shape is nice, but it feels cheap.

The twin edge Black Bear Classic will be my new wear around the house knife, in place of my SOG bowie.

Cold Steel is a great value. If only the handles weren't Zytel plastic or kraton rubber, and they used more durable steel in the stainless models, I'd have no complaints. Now I'm waiting for my Busses and Mad Dogs to come in to compare CS to tough knives twice the price.

Eric Takabayashi
Fukuyama, Japan
 
Wow! Thanks for all the feedback. I'll have to try out Cold Steel now. Maybe an SRK. The cheap crap that Smokey Mountain was selling (the CAT Tanto) made me think that all Cold Steel made, was junk.
 
Long ago I posted something about Cold Steel quality control that got quite a few replies (can't remember if it was at Knifeforums or here), but the overall opinion was that Cold Steel knives are good, but not exactly up to what the Proof Video implied. Solid knives, but don't let the advertisements fool you.
 
Disco Stu, you can call Cold Steel directly and order one of their catalogs for free, tel # is (800)255-4716.Cold Steel's direct prices are a little higher than if you shop/look around but the catalog does show the complete Cold Steel line.I've got a CS Bush Ranger in Carbon V that is a good camp knife to throw around, but I would'nt trust most of their hype. Knives are'nt made to be put through car doors, etc.
 
I think that, generally, while CS dosen't make the best knives in the world they make some of the best knives around, dollar for dollar. I really like my CS Ultralocks. I'm not a fan of their current folders. If you like the SRK go with the Fallkniven A-1, its the knife the SRK wanted to be.

[This message has been edited by fudo (edited 10 November 1999).]
 
Here we go again....
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Auto bodies are made of very thin mild steel. Practically any knife made will penetrate it, including some $5 folders.


Next time you go by an auto salvage yard ask them to point out a car they won't mind a few holes in, and have some fun with whatever knives you happen to have with you. If you use a $5 surgical stainless knife the point will be noticeably dulled, especially if you make multiple holes with it, but you'll get tired of the game before it gets too dull to penetrate with a good hard thrust.

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
I enjoy my three CS knives. I have the LTC kukri which makes short work of anything blocking trails that I hike. I too have a bushman that wasn't very sharp out of the box- a little sharmening took care of that and it is now my Dad's favorite knife to work with around the house. It DOES make a great spearhead- I tried!!! I also have the 7" kitchen knife... it is probably the best of those three that I have! zips through anything and hasn't shown any signs of dulling. Great tools for the $
I am hoping that Santa (or Girlfriend
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leaves a Culloden under the tree this year. If there is one, I'll let you know!
 
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