Cold Steel recon scout ...help

[deltablade]

I got one of these cold steel recon scouts for Christmas, put in the secure ex sheath, and it will NOT come out. Is thewe some trick to extgaction? or do I have to take the sheath apart to get the knife out?

 

[oldmanwilly]

I usually have to use my thumb to push on the mouth of the sheath while my off-hand grips tightly and pulls away. It was pretty still to begin but loosened up with some practice. I'm not fan of securex and am biding my time until I get a kydex and/or leather replacement.

Is it the new 52100 model?

 

[Alberta Ed]

Have a leather sheath made for it or make one yourself. A good knife deserves a good house.

 

[Mimic Knife & Tool]

Heat gun or hair dryer. Or carefully with some sort of flame, heat the sheath till the knife pops out

 

[The Zieg]

Dunking the whole rig in scalding hot water will mimic the hair dryer, too.

 

[jbmonkey]

I got one of these cold steel recon scouts for Christmas, put in the secure ex sheath, and it will NOT come out. Is thewe some trick to extgaction? or do I have to take the sheath apart to get the knife out?

pull the top sides apart a bit, with your thumb and a finger.....not on the edge side..... and it will come out.

 

[deltablade]

I usually have to use my thumb to push on the mouth of the sheath while my off-hand grips tightly and pulls away. It was pretty still to begin but loosened up with some practice. I'm not fan of securex and am biding my time until I get a kydex and/or leather replacement.

Is it the new 52100 model?

It is the 3v model

 

[deltablade]

guess I will hafta figure out where to get a good sheath.

 

[oldmanwilly]

Any one of the sheath makers here on BF should be able to make whatever you want. I've been lazy and haven't gone to the effort to send my knife off to have one made.

 

[The Zieg]

guess I will hafta figure out where to get a good sheath.

In the meantime, a Buck 119 sheath fits the SRK nicely; so nicely that when I bought a sheathless Carbon V SRK, I ordered a Buck sheath and I've stuck with it. Less than $20, I think.

 

[deltablade]

Thanks for the advice. I did get it out by pushing the top of the sheath apart with my left hand and pulling hard on the handle with my right. I notice that there are 2 protusions on each side ot the top of the sheat that grab the guard, so I will sand these down until I get a reasonable retention pressure yet still light enough to withdraw the knife easily. Yet as is it feels really dangerous to hafta put fingers in such a position and pull so hard to free the knife. , and I hate getting cut. I am surprised that Cold Steel makes the sheaths this way, so as to be practically unusable. I just bought 2 pendleton lite cold steel knives for my grandchildren, and they have a similar very difficult resistance to withdrawing the knife. and the culprit is a protusion in the sheath holding the handle.
Surely Cold Steel can re-engineer this . In the meantime I am looking for a good custom sheath maker.

 

[AntDog]

For nice, affordable leather, look up Gordon’s Leatherworks on the bay. They go by “to-gordo”.

VERY reasonable, and straight up awesome veg tan, bridle leather sheaths.

 

[goldie]

I just got a tanto from them a few days ago, had same issue; it was locked in ! The plastic retaining tabs in the sheath that hold the guard in are too big, i cut away a little bit of each tab away now it works fine.Thats the only way to fix this issue....

 

[DangerZone98]

Thanks for the advice. I did get it out by pushing the top of the sheath apart with my left hand and pulling hard on the handle with my right. I notice that there are 2 protusions on each side ot the top of the sheat that grab the guard, so I will sand these down until I get a reasonable retention pressure yet still light enough to withdraw the knife easily. Yet as is it feels really dangerous to hafta put fingers in such a position and pull so hard to free the knife. , and I hate getting cut. I am surprised that Cold Steel makes the sheaths this way, so as to be practically unusable. I just bought 2 pendleton lite cold steel knives for my grandchildren, and they have a similar very difficult resistance to withdrawing the knife. and the culprit is a protusion in the sheath holding the handle.
Surely Cold Steel can re-engineer this . In the meantime I am looking for a good custom sheath maker.

This is not normal spec for Cold Steel sheaths. All my secure-ex sheaths are not too tight, not too loose.

If you can still return it/replace it from where you got it, I recommend that. That should be covered by warranty.

 

[The Whip]

This is not normal spec for Cold Steel sheaths. All my secure-ex sheaths are not too tight, not too loose.

If you can still return it/replace it from where you got it, I recommend that. That should be covered by warranty.

I'm sorry to report that the normal retention these days is often exactly what deltablade experienced, as many of my recent Cold Steel fixed blade sheaths have had the same issue, particularly those with metal guards. I don't know what the problem is, but I suspect that it's new (and entirely separate) sheath suppliers. The current sheaths come heat-sealed in plastic, separate from the knife, which means that nobody at the factory sticking them in the box with the knife has ever tried to mate the blade and the sheath even once. That being the case, if the sheath's retention is too tight, who's going to figure it out before the owner tries it for the first time?

It's an irksome problem. But what makes it worse is that it's really dangerous. If you cut yourself trying to force a fixed blade out of an overly tight sheath, that's going to be a bad cut! Plus, it makes the sheath useless for a rapid withdraw of the knife in an emergency. Basically, it's defeating some of the best features that a thermoplastic sheath is supposed to offer!

While I take your point about returning the knife, I don't think that's the best option these days. Neither the retailer nor GSM is going to view it as a defect, and if a replacement is sent, it likely will have the same problem. I'm afraid the best option is to just grind down the retention nubs until the fit is right, like others have mentioned.

But I definitely think that every one of us should call/e-mail Cold Steel to report the issue. Maybe if Customer Service gets enough complaints, GSM will take the hint and implement better quality control at its factories. That was part of what Lynn and crew were doing by pulling random knives out of the shipments and testing them--ensuring proper construction and working out manufacturing kinks. Contrary to what Beam and company seem to think, it wasn't just for clicks on YouTube to move more units....


-Steve

 

[goldie]

When i got my tanto and put it in the sheath i couldnt believe how locked in it was : it kinda makes for a dangerous situation struggling to get that knife out without getting sliced . These are the little quirks that come w GSM i guess …

 

[deltablade]

When i got my tanto and put it in the sheath i couldnt believe how locked in it was : it kinda makes for a dangerous situation struggling to get that knife out without getting sliced . These are the little quirks that come w GSM i guess …

I felt the same way when my Recon Scout locked in. It is a very bad idea to make the locking mechanism such that so much force is required to extract the knife. and no instructions with the knife. I can see people getting seriously hurt trying to get the knife out.