Cold Steel Samurai Swords

Klesk

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Anyone have any experience or own one of Cold Steel's newer line of Samurai Swords (the ones that come in the Imperial or Warrior series)? I was thinking of buying one for display purposes, and wanted to get some opinions. They're a little more expensive than some of the United swords, yet much less than the real thing. Are they worth it?
 
By United I assume you mean the one with 420J blade steel. Nope, they are not even in the same class. Cold Steel's katanas are made to be used even though there's no temper line (hamon). You can actually use it to cut some wara (target) or even thick wara. They hold up very well.

The United katanas are only good for decoration purposes. The blade might break (very high possibility) if you attempt to cut anything other than paper.

I study kenjutsu, so I'd definitely go with the Cold Steel. Beauty lies in the function. For tighter budget, go for the Practical Katana or Practical Plus Katana by Hanwei (a manufacturer in China, operated by Paul Chen, offered by CAS Iberia). They too are tough for cutting target.

The dimension of United katanas are not even close to the 'real' one. Meanwhile, the Cold Steel and the Practical Katana (and PPK) are closer to the authentic katanas dimension-wise. They are more expensive, but they are worth it (for me that is).

Hope it helps.
 
I've seen a united banged up katana because the idiots who bought it didn't listen to the clerk that told them it was display only and they had a sword fight/hitting trees (I can't remember). Edge was totally whacked up, and the cord wraps were coming loose.
For just looks stand point, I guess they're ok. But some of them have the looks of plastic (ie a handle that look like a dragon, only it looked like it was molded out of plastic....
 
Sorry, my bad, I don't think I was thinking of United, I just pulled that name out of the air because it sounded right. Now that Beluga reminded me, I was probably thinking of CAS Iberia.

Anyway, I am looking for a nice display Katana or Wakazashi, and I was wondering if anyone has seen or handled one of the Cold Steels, or actually owns one. I don't want a cheap piece of junk just because it is only for display, I still want something with quality and the real thing is out of the question. I am picking on Cold Steel because they have (had) a fairly good reputation, and their stuff is readily available on Ebay.
 
Ah, in that case, you cannot go wrong with either one. Cold Steel katanas are not junk, they can really cut well. I used a friend's Cold Steel, and it was really fun cutting with it.

If you want a katana for decoration purposes, I'd suggest you go with the CAS Iberia (make sure the ones that are made by Hanwei). Hanwei katanas have temper line that you can enjoy while CS katana do not. Both made excellent cutters though.
 
Thanks for the info, Beluga. How did you like the Cold Steel Katana as far as aesthetics and fit and finish are concerned? Would you be happy having that sword adorn your living room?
 
As useable weapons, how do the CS swords compare to Rob Criswell swords? Does anyone have any experience with both ? Thanks in advance.
 
I would expect almost no comparison.
Rob's swords are made out of A2 by hand.
Versus whatever fine automated process Cold Steel has used.
Perhaps Im biased but I don't think I would allow The cs in the same room with it.

However in a sword on sword duel the CS might have the edge due to better flexibility. The A2 might actually shatter if you whacked it super hard with a mild steel sword. Mine mostly duels bamboo.
 
If you are going by looks only why not go with some of the cheapies on Ebay or the "Shopping Networks" on TV. For a hundred bucks you can get three swords much better looking than CS, just don't use them. If you want a good looking sword that is also fully functional go with a Paul Chen Practical or Practical Plus for $175. to $250. respectivly. CS does have good steel.
 
How did you like the Cold Steel Katana as far as aesthetics and fit and finish are concerned?

Fit and finish are great. There wasn't any rattles when I cut with it (poorly constructed japanese swords usually rattle because of worn fittings or ppor workmanship).

The great thing about the CS is you don't have to worry about losing the temper line should you decide to 'clean' you blade when stained. If you don't maintain the blade regularly after cutting targets, the blade will stain.

Another good thing is the very pronounce V ground blade. Hanwei also makes the swords in V ground, but for some reason, CS katanas are more pronounce.

Rob Criswell also makes excellent cutter. But his swords have more tactical look (paracord handle and convex ground blade). Rob's are usually sharper when used to cut targets because of the convex ground (thin edge).

For looks, CS and Hanwei are the one to go. They have more traditional look which I really like.

TV shopping network --> I would really avoid it. Their swords are craps that cannot cut anything harde than paper, and they also look cheap. Even the obvious, such as the comparison between handle and blade length , is not even close to traditional swords.
Why spend $100 for 100 crappy knives, when you can spend $200 for a MUCH better one.

Again, I'm a practitioner. So, function, durability and traditional looks are what I look for in a sword. (I'm a bit biased when it comes to katana).

For $100-$200, Go for the Practical Plus Katana.
This sword has excellent balance.

For $400-$700, go for CS, Hanwei folded steel series, or customs.
There's not much difference in performance between PK or PPK and these swords.

For $1000 and up, Go for the real thing.
A Gendaito usually runs from $1000 to $8000. Some are made in the moern way, and some are in traditional way. You have to do a lot of research to avoid being getting ripped off. For Gendaito, one name comes to mind immediately : Ichihara Nagamitsu

Hope that helps. Feel free to email me.
 
Beluga, once again, thanks for the great info (and thanks to all the others who chimed in also). I believe that you are way overqualified to answer my questions, as all I want is a nice-looking sword that won't feel or look cheap when handled and/or examined closely. Of course, a good "look" is important also, since it will be only for display.

If I had the money, though, I just saw Scott Slobodian's 3 sword set for $14,000.... damn beautiful work, as always.

Anyway, thanks to all for the helpful info :)
 
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