Cold Steel VS CRKT

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i wanted to start getting more into the forums while answering my own personal questions, so i wanted to start posting a company showdown type series,. so to start, who do you think consistently has the better product. and i mean consistently, per mabie say 100 knives each company produces, how many are actually any good? also, what about steels? for instance, crkt uses both aus 8 and 8cr13mov. while cold steel does not use 8cr13(or 14)mov. is this a good thing or a bad thing in your opinion? also, how would you pit some of the companys best, and most recognizable knives together? and lastlyy, handle material (polymer plastics/metals). cold steel likes to use kraton as well as grivory, while crkt tends to stick to zytel and g10. and lastly, there sheathing. how do they hold up in the end? and finnaly, innovation.
also, lets just tack on price, how often do you get a good knife from them without paying an arm and leg?
so lemme know what you guys think, who do YOU think is the best?
 
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They both make wildly diverse designs within their own companies, both use diverse steels and handle materials, degree of finish is variable depending on price level.

I don't think there's any real valid comparison as you set it up, except to say that neither company makes anything in the USA except perhaps the pixels on their websites and their printed materials.

- OS
 
I'd honestly pick neither. I haven't really found any CRKT that I enjoy, and the Sog that I used to have was rife with blade-play and their customer service didn't return any emails or phone calls. For the price of their knives you can get USA-made Kershaws / Spydercos / Benchmades which are a much better overall product with better steel, materials, customer service, etc.

ETA: CRKT was also involved with the TSA importing SNAFU with Gerber and wasn't labeling country of origin on product. Big no-no right there.
 
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I see Cold Steel as a company that strives to make a bomb-proof product: they make and market their knives as over-built tanks that will stand up to whatever a user can throw at 'em and more. They build knives you can run over with a tractor and still use it to baton through a cinderblock (exaggerating, of course... :rolleyes: ) I see Columbia River as a company that's out to sell you something--very business driven: whatever your taste, you can find a suitable CRKT product. They're good at signing on new designers and have an extensive inventory that they'll produce wherever is most economically viable. CRKT can make a crap knife, but they are more than capable of producing some real gems too.

And I think both companies excel at what they do best. It's tough to say which is better, imo.
 
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me and my friends are a little bit torn between the two :P . one of them basicly said the same thing you said (overbuilt tanks), and i agree with crkt being more buisness driven. i think in the end it does depend on taste. although, im not sure wich i like more as far as the innovations. because i look at something like the crkt fulcrum, and instantly i think its an redisgned, upgraded, and overall better version of a cold steel tripple action. but at the same time i see the "LAWKS" system (not autolawks) and it seems like a more toned down saftey measure, and looks nowhere near as strong as the triad lock. i think if i had put any other 2 companys together it would be more decisive, like benchmade VS spyderco, wich i might wanna do next. boker vs kershaw also seems like it would be a good match. and as far as the questions not being valid, im trying to say to look at the companys prefrences, and how they preform in combonation with everything else. for instance, one of the m16 knives have an msrp of soemthing like $110. but the blade steel is aus 8, and the handle material titanium. good combo? dont think so. your basicly paying for the titanium handle scales. i cannot possibly think of any situation where you could do something to this knife in wich titanium would hold up better then aluminium, and not void the warrenty. I.E. actualy running it over with your car or shooting it.
 
No offense, but I don't feel like answering a dozen different questions so I'll just say both companies produce good affordable knives. I like my CRKT M16-03Z with AutoLAWKS and think the Hisshou is one of the most bad-ass production edged weapons you can get. That being said, my vote would be for CS with their large Tri-Ad lock folders, wide range of machetes, push daggers, and their now discontinued US made Carbon V fixed blades.
 
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No offense, but I don't feel like answering a dozen different questions so I'll just say both companies produce good affordable knives. I like my CRKT M16-03Z with AutoLAWKS and think the Hisshou is one of the most bad-ass production edged weapons you can get. That being said, my overall vote would be for CS with their large Tri-Ad lock folders, wide range of machetes, push daggers, and their now discontinued US made Carbon V fixed blades.

im still wondering if they are ever gonna do a hisshou folder XD that would be sick. like replacing the aus 8 blade with yk30, mabie, g10 handle scales and a hisshou blade instead of the hissatsu blade..... one can onle hope i guess :( but i think when it comes to cold steel though, they are usualy grossly overpriced. the thought of how much i bought the black rhino for when it came out, still makes me shudder.
 
me and my friends are a little bit torn between the two :P . one of them basicly said the same thing you said (overbuilt tanks), and i agree with crkt being more buisness driven. ....

Oh yes....Cold Steel is not at all about marketing and selling knives.

CKRT with their crazy videos of the owner running around in shorts and stabbing slabs of meat stuffed into leather jackets....
 
Oh yes....Cold Steel is not at all about marketing and selling knives.
Which company is NOT about marketing and selling knives? You're entitled to your preferences on how they should market and sell but they all do it. I'm sure even those most proper and ethical in your eyes would agree.

Back on-topic: I see CRKT pump out an insane number of models. It's just not possible that all of them have been tested and tried, had their wrinkles ironed out before they're put on the counter. Combined with their more flashy and colorful designs it leads me to regard them as a brand for the less discerning buyer. I own two from my early collecting years and they are both flimsy knives with awkward edge geometries. thin liners and weak handles. I don't see myself buying CRKT again unless something changes quite drastically.
Cold Steel I am still a fan of, I just wish they'd offer better steels in their Recon 1/AL/AK-47 line. AUS8A is a tough steel but does not do these otherwise excellent folders justice.
The new Voyagers look like great blades for the money, excellent blade design, the awesome Tri-Ad lock and lots to choose where size is concerned. The Counter Point, Hold Out look like cool blades as well, with stupid MSRP but with CS you usually end paying about half that.

So no, I think the companies are very different. CRKT has no real philosophy other than offer lots of models and so cast a wide net, Cold Steel occupies the "tough indestructible" niche, and specializes there, and mostly lives up to its reputation.
 
So no, I think the companies are very different. CRKT has no real philosophy other than offer lots of models and so cast a wide net, Cold Steel occupies the "tough indestructible" niche, and specializes there, and mostly lives up to its reputation.

good point. some of there models are very good for production knives, but its usualy 1 in every so many. if you look at the're old catalogs they include in the boxes of all there knives, an INSANE number of them are discontinued.
 
Which company is NOT about marketing and selling knives? You're entitled to your preferences on how they should market and sell but they all do it. I'm sure even those most proper and ethical in your eyes would agree.

Of course. Though, apparently, CRKT is "more business driven" than Cold Steel.
 
I'd have to say I prefer Cold Steel for a very basic reason. Much of their lineup has been proven in real world situations, especially there fixed blade knives. Ive handled many of them as have many of my friends. I havent seen much from CRKT in large fixed blades. Of course Im old school and I like a simple, plain design that works. Flashy design does nothing for me. Now the folders from each may be different, not a real fan of either in that department.
 
Just some words of advice for the OP:

It's all well and good wanting to learn about knives, that is why 99% of us are here. But I would advise using caution with your " this vs that" showdown. First of all, it's really been done to death. Spyderco Vs Benchmade, Becker vs ESEE, Sebenza vs Superman, etc. On thing that can happen is you will get some answers that make ense and learn a few things in the process. The other thing that can happen is a off topic trollathon between fanboy factions. It happens easier than you might think.

My advice? Read what has already been posted, read the archives, use the search function. You will learn a great deal by the previous posts that hae come and gone. More than likely, you would learn more that way than rehashing the same old thing. At least read those old posts anda start a thread with a somewhata informed opinion instead of a generic uninformed request for information. If you really want to learn, search for the informarion that is there.

Back on topic, I would choose Cold Steel, hands down.
 
CRKT offers more variety, has some better steels, and more interesting designs. But for the price, I'd rarely buy from either company.
 
Of course. Though, apparently, CRKT is "more business driven" than Cold Steel.
Heh. I wonder exactly what was meant by that (not your words, I know). If it means "sell regardless" then it might well be true. I'm sure Lynn Thompson likes his Cold Cash as much as the next guy but he does have a philosophy, a vision that he seems to stick to, a principle if you will. I can detect no such thing about CRKT. Not necessarily a bad thing, it just means you never know what to expect from them. ;)
 
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