I read that there may be a collaboration with Benchmade in the works. Any feelings on this?
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Benchmade is a good quality production company and I like a lot of their products. But I feel they tried to rip off Chris's pattern of the Sebenza in their 750 monolock model. Granted it came out OK, but it was nowhere near as nice as a Sebenza! When the monolock first came on the market I saw one at a local cutlery shop; I ended up buying one off the internet. This was prior to knowing about a Chris Reeve Sebenza. After some time Benchmade changed the knives lock a tweek. Needless to say it still was not up to par with the sebbie's standard (nor ever would be). I eventually sold the 750 and took the Sebenza plunge. Man, I couldn't beleive the difference. Back to the topic at hand. I have heard about the Microtech/Reeve collaberation, but nothing about his company doing any venturing with Benchmade. I'm not sure weather I would be offended or honored about being copied by another manufacture. Then again...with the quality of Chris Reeve knives, there's not much to worry about.
RW
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RW
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I had a BM 750 Monolock. I then bought a LG Pheasant Tail Sebbie.
I gave the BM to a friend for his B-Day.
There is no comparison. The Sebbie is rock solid, my BM had some vertical blade play because the lock bar flexed when you applied pressure to the blade. Plus the damn thing was dull out of the box. I was glad to see it go. I'll never buy a BM unless I can actually check it out first.
I gave the BM to a friend for his B-Day.
There is no comparison. The Sebbie is rock solid, my BM had some vertical blade play because the lock bar flexed when you applied pressure to the blade. Plus the damn thing was dull out of the box. I was glad to see it go. I'll never buy a BM unless I can actually check it out first.
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I too bought a BM 750. I thought it might be an affordable, semi-disposable Sebenza, or at least moe disposable than the Sebenza.
Well, out of the box the edge was nothing to write home about and the blade had sideways sloppiness. Fortunately I bought it from an internet dealer that let me return it, same day.
Bottom line, I do not see any benefit to CR getting into a name-sharing deal with BM. BM, on the other hand, could gain much from an affiliation with CR, especially since they so badly need what CRK stone cold has - consistant quality.
Well, out of the box the edge was nothing to write home about and the blade had sideways sloppiness. Fortunately I bought it from an internet dealer that let me return it, same day.
Bottom line, I do not see any benefit to CR getting into a name-sharing deal with BM. BM, on the other hand, could gain much from an affiliation with CR, especially since they so badly need what CRK stone cold has - consistant quality.
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I like my Sebenza's... they are almost twice the knife for 3 times the price vs. the 750 Pinnacle. That's how it goes when you get into precision and higher end stuff semi-production/semi-custom stuff vs. straight production ... you gotta belly up on price.
I think BM did reasonably well for their attempt... some design flaws like the titanium lock seems to grate/gall a bit on the back of the tang (wrong angle?) whereas Sebenza is a clean unlock. The BM does have some sideplay in blade, but when you tighten pivot to remove play, it is harder to open, noticeably. Reeve got the bronze or nylatron bearings right. Smooth, no side play. It's right. And a stout knife with a great heat treat.
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I think BM did reasonably well for their attempt... some design flaws like the titanium lock seems to grate/gall a bit on the back of the tang (wrong angle?) whereas Sebenza is a clean unlock. The BM does have some sideplay in blade, but when you tighten pivot to remove play, it is harder to open, noticeably. Reeve got the bronze or nylatron bearings right. Smooth, no side play. It's right. And a stout knife with a great heat treat.
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Just to put the rumour down, there is absolutely no collaboration between Chris Reeve Knives and Benchmade in the works.
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That settles it then. I was grossly misinformed.
I checked again on the source: "Blade Magazine," which reports that a collaboration is under consideration with Microtech but is still under wraps. Same question but different manufacturer-What do you think?
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I think that unless CRK is deparate to increase production capabilities, it should remain a single malt. Blends are fine, except that I do not see an equal to CRK. If the "other" Microtech, BM, whomever is a lesser it will only serve to dilute.
When I call CRK on the phone I can actually speak with Chris himself, Anne or someone else who truly cares. Call some other knife company and you'll get the old, "Your call is very important to us at __________, if you have a rotary phone, please press O N E, now."
Now if someone else makes a knife and it sports a CRK blade, that may be another story; not unlike Cosworth or Shelby putting a hand-made engine into a production car.
When I call CRK on the phone I can actually speak with Chris himself, Anne or someone else who truly cares. Call some other knife company and you'll get the old, "Your call is very important to us at __________, if you have a rotary phone, please press O N E, now."
Now if someone else makes a knife and it sports a CRK blade, that may be another story; not unlike Cosworth or Shelby putting a hand-made engine into a production car.
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I am glad to hear that CRK will stay away from Benchmade. I can't imagine a customer oriented company like Chris Reeve collaborating with the likes of "ELU" corporate mentality. And what would be the company policy on disassembly of knives after a collaboration? Just a rant.
Chris
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