Colonial (Old Cutler) 4 blade Stockman?

[orca8589]

Here's a link to an ebay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Colonia...in_0?hash=item2c50943618&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This is a four blade Stockman, supposedly made by Colonial under the Old Cutler name. Is this thing for real? I'm having a really hard time believing any mfr. would put a large hawkbill on a serpentine Stockman handle. Maybe they did, but it seems to me that it would be really uncomfortable to use.

Oh, and did Colonial ever have file-worked springs?

thx - cpr

 

[thawk]

I bought an Old Cutler. One time. The steel tarnished really bad on the one I had. It was like an 8OT Schrade, but a jack pattern.

 

[orvet]

Orca,
Looking at the fleabay pics, I think that knife was probably customized.
I have not seen a Colonial with file-worked backsprings and blades before.
Not that it is not possible, I just have not seen nor heard of it before.
I don't think it was made with filework at the factory.

If you accept my hypothesis that the knife has been customized, I think it is likely that the hawkbill blade was added then.

The hawkbill was added between the master blade and the 2 secondary blades. Note how much shorter the hawkbill is than the frame. If it had been factory I think it would have been longer.
Also note the void in the top view between the tip of the hawkbill & the other blades. If factory made I think they would have reversed the pivot on the hawkbill and made it longer to avoid the look of the blank space when looking down on the blades. That would have made a nicer looking knife, something a factory designer should think about.

Just my observations.
I could be wrong, but that is how it appears to me.

Dale

 

[orca8589]

orvet -

I agree, after looking at the pics further. Kind of sad really, I have two Frontiers like that - almost identical, but not messed with. and they're just as nice as my old 8OT. File work, ona personal carry piece, I could understand. But adding a big goofy blade? That I don;t get. (Goofy in the sense that it messes up the ergonomics.)

btw - there's another Frontier on fleabay that has fileworked springs, and they show up occasionally. So far, none of the filework looks good enough to be factory, but that's just my opinion. Maybe Frontier did work in that kind of detail.

thx - cpr

 

[tthman]

Hi,im going to search through my old smkw catalogs from the 80s alot of knives that i have never seen with weird blade combinations. That said this knife design ,i think somewhere i've seen this one from colonial,if i find something i'll let you know,thanks.