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Why does this company choose to make its knifes overseas?
Are these knifes legal to own/carry in the country of origin?
Are the workers paid enough to afford one?
Just curious.
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Why does this company choose to make its knifes overseas?
Are these knifes legal to own/carry in the country of origin?
Are the workers paid enough to afford one?
Just curious.
not2sharp
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Richard,
Why does anyone manufacture things overseas?
1) Less red tape
2) Cheaper Labor
There is no need to single CRKT out. If anything they probably have a better reason than most. They are a relatively young operation and are jobbing out the designs rather than sink moneys into setting up a smokestack.
This topic would be better address in the Community Forum under Politics.
N2S
Why does anyone manufacture things overseas?
1) Less red tape
2) Cheaper Labor
There is no need to single CRKT out. If anything they probably have a better reason than most. They are a relatively young operation and are jobbing out the designs rather than sink moneys into setting up a smokestack.
This topic would be better address in the Community Forum under Politics.
N2S
Are the workers paid enough to afford one ?
Unless every article of clothing you are wearing, every piece of electronics, your vehicles, and every household article you own is made in USA, the answer would likely be no. Virtually anything made in Mexico or the Far East for sale here would be out of reach for the average piece worker. And if they were made here, the labor costs would mean they would likely need to be priced at a level above what the American workers could afford. What's your point ?
Unless every article of clothing you are wearing, every piece of electronics, your vehicles, and every household article you own is made in USA, the answer would likely be no. Virtually anything made in Mexico or the Far East for sale here would be out of reach for the average piece worker. And if they were made here, the labor costs would mean they would likely need to be priced at a level above what the American workers could afford. What's your point ?
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As a ethnic Taiwanese American citizen, I really enjoy the CRKT products. Made by my Taiwanese brothers. Taiwan doesn't use cheap sweat shop type labor much any more (those operations moved to China). The people of Taiwan are usually making a decent living, and I know a lot of Asian-Americans who actually move to Taiwan to find jobs. Taiwan is highly industrialized. As for carrying a knife, I believe the knife laws are similar to that of Australia or something. Restrictive, but if you look respectable, you probably won't have to worry about it. I know plenty of people in Taiwan who are knife knuts (KuKu). When I visited Taiwan a couple years ago, there weren't that many police around even in the city.
Taiwan is a fairly wealthy, small, capitalist country.
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Taiwan is a fairly wealthy, small, capitalist country.
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Sounds like more of the typical "if the poor foreign workers can't immediately live like Americans, they are being taken advantage of" argument. Personally, I feel like just about any work of this sort benefits both parties. They work there because it's probably one of the few opportunties open to them. Therefore, they are making money they wouldn't get otherwise. For the company jobbing out the work, they get a good product at a low price. Sounds to me like a win-win situation.
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CRKT offers great knives for the price.
if the workes were no getting paid enough,they would probably go somewhere else to work.Taiwan is a pretty affluent place,and im quite sure that the workers are happy.i dont worry about it.
now i just have to decide which one im getting next.
if the workes were no getting paid enough,they would probably go somewhere else to work.Taiwan is a pretty affluent place,and im quite sure that the workers are happy.i dont worry about it.
now i just have to decide which one im getting next.
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I've never heard any complaints about Taiwan sweatshops recently. It is a stereotype that all Far East labor is sweatshop labor. Nothing could be further from the truth. You'll notice that Taiwanese products cost quite a quite more money to buy when compared to Red China products. Taiwan is rather far from a third world country... it is probably a first world country in terms of wealth.
-- Southern Taiwan shall rise again!
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As others have pointed out, minimizing costs is a big factor when you are a business trying to make a profit.
Comrade Chang also pointed out an excellent point: Taiwan is a thriving industrialized, capitalist country. Why do you think they don't want China to take control? Don't confuse Taiwan with China, or Japan, or Korea, etc.
I want to avoid getting political here. But whether your reasons are patriotism, or not wanting to take advantage of "sweat shops", it is getting more difficult to buy a product which doesn't have some sort of global input since it is difficult for any one country to have the BEST workers, BEST raw materials, BEST manufacturing facilities, etc. You have to rely on other sources. It's just like the economic theory of DIVISION OF LABOR and SPECIALIZATION. You often get better products at realistic prices.
In addition, remember that MADE IN U.S.A. only means it was assembled in the U.S.A. The design, and raw materials may have come from somewhere else. Marketers/advertising often try to appeal to our sense of patriotism using this ("Proudly made in the U.S.A.), or to reinforce some preconceived notion (MADE IN JAPAN; therefore it must be high-tech).
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Comrade Chang also pointed out an excellent point: Taiwan is a thriving industrialized, capitalist country. Why do you think they don't want China to take control? Don't confuse Taiwan with China, or Japan, or Korea, etc.
I want to avoid getting political here. But whether your reasons are patriotism, or not wanting to take advantage of "sweat shops", it is getting more difficult to buy a product which doesn't have some sort of global input since it is difficult for any one country to have the BEST workers, BEST raw materials, BEST manufacturing facilities, etc. You have to rely on other sources. It's just like the economic theory of DIVISION OF LABOR and SPECIALIZATION. You often get better products at realistic prices.
In addition, remember that MADE IN U.S.A. only means it was assembled in the U.S.A. The design, and raw materials may have come from somewhere else. Marketers/advertising often try to appeal to our sense of patriotism using this ("Proudly made in the U.S.A.), or to reinforce some preconceived notion (MADE IN JAPAN; therefore it must be high-tech).
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