Combat hawk proto

tohubohu

tohubohu

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Hello!
This is my first post in the Axe forum.
I'm working in a mainly combat-oriented tomahawk, "modular" and straightforward.

Here are some specs:
  • O1 steel
  • 5mm thick blade
  • 2x6mm thick G10 handle

Sorry about the picture quality, not the best.
hEFERtobreakbreachtomahawkprotocomposedjpg.jpg


Still a lot of work to do.
I'm planning a full, single piece version as well.

Please let me know your opinions and advises,
And thanks for watching
 
Tohubohu,

Lovely!
Now back to the one piece construction that you intended (and what many fancied) there's a gap in the middle where too much of stress build-ups.
You could take that outline and make a tapered tang out of it.That's for future.
For now you could cut a slot slightly deeper than the head thickness so you flush both when fastened.

I always see the edge protruded more than the spike and wondering if the balance's there. As you will carry this around you would want it to be light and easy to maneuver. Too short of a distance between spike and handle won't give you much prying use. That's a point i saw with my Annihilator tool.
On the grip-wise you might want to consider putting some texture for better retention.
 
I like it! Looks like it would be light and fast - as you say it's a "combat" hawk, not a breaching tool.

My only thoughts is that the 2 x G10 slabs would still make a fairly narrow handle... so you might need some extra slabs / cord wrap to bulk it up.
 
JayGoliath said:
Tohubohu,

Lovely!
Now back to the one piece construction that you intended (and what many fancied) there's a gap in the middle where too much of stress build-ups.
You could take that outline and make a tapered tang out of it.That's for future.
For now you could cut a slot slightly deeper than the head thickness so you flush both when fastened.

I always see the edge protruded more than the spike and wondering if the balance's there. As you will carry this around you would want it to be light and easy to maneuver. Too short of a distance between spike and handle won't give you much prying use. That's a point i saw with my Annihilator tool.
On the grip-wise you might want to consider putting some texture for better retention.
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Thanks Jay!

I will give a thought to your advises.
 
Daniel L said:
I like it! Looks like it would be light and fast - as you say it's a "combat" hawk, not a breaching tool.

My only thoughts is that the 2 x G10 slabs would still make a fairly narrow handle... so you might need some extra slabs / cord wrap to bulk it up.
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That was my firts thought as well, but when I assembled it, it felt so light and fast and I didn´t miss a thicker handle.

I was even thinking about a 3mm-thick blade version to make it even lighter yet tough. What do you think?

...and thanks!
 
I love the head shape. All I could say is that you could add a slight forward curve on the handle, making the head forward a bit, this adds to the head cutting ability and application as a weapon.
Maybe a pommel on the handle? Something like the old boarding axes had.

Boarding-axe-copy.jpg



Having a downward curve on the back spike is perfect for CQC situations, that shows that there is a lot of thinking behind the designee. I wouldn’t add anything to the head.
 
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Edwood7 said:
I love the head shape. All I could say is that you could add a slight forward curve on the handle, making the head forward a bit, this adds to the head cutting ability and application as a weapon.
Maybe a pommel on the handle? Something like the old boarding axes had.

Boarding-axe-copy.jpg



Having a downward curve on the back spike is perfect for CQC situations, that shows that there is a lot of thinking behind the designee. I wouldn’t add anything to the head.
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Thanks Edwood.

You are right about the pommel. What I have in mind is that because it is a modular design, different types of pommels could be bolted at the end of the handle.

About a curve in the handle, it could be. But for the moment I want it to be an affordable as possible hawk, and that's why, for the moment, the handle is straight.

I appreciate your good advises. Thanks!
 
The set screw you have on the handel could be used to adjust de handel like an elbow, making it a 2 piece handel with an angel locking mechanism for straight or forward positioning. I don't think it would add to the cost.
 
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Edwood7 said:
De set screw you have on the handel could be used to adjust de handel like an elbow, making it a 2 piece handel with an angel locking mechanism for straight or forward positioning. I don't think it would add to the cost.
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I've been playing with that system for another model; just a big good screw tight enough it wouldn't move. But I don´t know if it would be enough for a "real" situation. And I want to keep the handle straight, so options are a bit limited (no room enough in the actual width for 2 holes). Anyway,I'm still Trying different options and let you know.
Thanks!
 
Hello everybody.

Thanks for all your advises. The last day I've been working in the second proto following some of your suggestions. My intention is still to make an affordable , more combat-oriented hawk.

Handle: there will be 2 versions: a lightweight curved G10 version, and a staight, slightly longer steel version.
End of the handle: the G10 version will come with a set of 3 different tips, and the steel version will serve as a pry bar.
The same blade can be used in the different handles.

As soon as I edit the photos I will show you.

Thanks
 
If you really want to know how it works, either go get in a fight (just kidding) or send one to Edwood7. I don't claim to speak for Ed, but he seems to be the combat hawk master around these parts, or at least has used his hawks in real situations.

Have you seen the hawk from Nemesis knives, the LMAX? scroll down a bit on this page. http://nemesis-knives.com/tools.htm Your larger head is nicer looking, but his bolts the same way.
 
foxx said:
If you really want to know how it works, either go get in a fight (just kidding) or send one to Edwood7. I don't claim to speak for Ed, but he seems to be the combat hawk master around these parts, or at least has used his hawks in real situations.

Have you seen the hawk from Nemesis knives, the LMAX? scroll down a bit on this page. http://nemesis-knives.com/tools.htm Your larger head is nicer looking, but his bolts the same way.
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Hello Fox.

Yes, that's what it seems, Edwood is well respected in the forum.
I've seen the LMAX before; it's another approach.

Thanks!
 
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