Combat Water Survival Training

madcap_magician

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Anybody know any hints for me? I'm not a terribly great swimmer, and it's not the full-blown course, but I have it on 2 Dec. and I'd appreciate hints and tricks from anyone who's ever done it or who just swims a lot.
 
mdcap,

Done it more than a few times.

Hint one : practice getting into and out of your LBE/belt/vest and getting free it of on land. Know the drill dry and you won't get confused under water.

Hint two: Practice stepping off a highboard, eyes closed, at the college pool, so the sensation of falling into water with a blindfold isn't new. The newness of it throws some people who then get themsleves too worked up.

You don't have to be a good swimmer to pass it, it's not hard. You just have to keep a cool head.

You'll be fine,
Jeff
 
Probably the hardest part is just swimming the length of the pool. The second part where you jump in backwards and have to swim 15 meters can also be done by floating on your back. I've seen this done by an overweight seargent who couldn't swim on his belly. Remember that, if you have any trouble. On the third part, it's not difficult, maybe a little scary if you don't like heights. Finally, on the last part, just remember to ditch all of your equipment under the water before you surface. I've seen more people get gigged for this than any of the others. I've taken this test several times. Gallowglass is right. You don't have to be a great swimmer to pass. You just have to keep a cool head. Good luck! :)
 
I'm not familiar with the subject training, but for my Naval aviation swim quals I found that practicing swimming underwater helped more than anything. We do the helo dunker thing and being comfortable underwater was very beneficial. Sounds like the same could be true of you needing to shed your gear underwater.
 
It's really not that tough; like everyone else has said previously. Just use the training that you'll receive prior to executing all the material. I went up to CWS 2 and had the quall for 1 just never got it on paper. I even know a lot of guys that went for Q which they said the hardest part was wrestling an instructor off your back underwater, but you won't have to worry about that I don't think. Just keep a level head and don't be afraid to get wet!! :D Sorry, that was my smart @$$ comment for the day!

Don't sweat it you'll be fine!
 
been there done that. Swim slow and if they give you a rubber duck "weapon" don't drop it.
 
My understanding talking to some of the GIs is that the hardest parts are:
1. NOT getting kicked by others in the pool
2. tredding water with arms held up in the air, head above water at all times
3. Overcoming the tendency to panic (usually related to #1)

I was a swimmer and did alot of free diving down south years ago. So, for me, I do not think it would be hard. If you have little water time it might be difficult. I never had to do this for the military.
 
Being relax is key and breathe! I realized that after going through it enough. I went from a CWS4 to CWS2 like that and got to CWS1 till a injury got the best of me.


S/F,
CEYA!
 
LOL, since we used rubber chickens and they were going to get wet anyway when we did the equipment drop exercise, nobody cared if you kept your weapon secured.

I passed all five events relatively easily. It's mostly a DON'T PANIC exercise. The shoes were the biggest problem, and the BDUs didn't make things convenient.

I tried to get away with the empty-canteen routine, but last night we were explicitly told not to bring ours, they had some there, and every canteen was full.

Somehow I gained buoyancy from the last time I tried, and I could have treaded water pretty much forever, even without the pants as PFD routine. We got to use them to make a waterborne litter for a casualty, which was a lot of fun, because then we'd sail around the pool on three pairs of pants. Only problem was, you'd have your pants off, and then somebody would have to slide their inflated pants under your ass, and... yeah... there are a lot of women in this unit because our schools are big on nursing and education, but my group was all guys. >.< We felt strangely... gay when groping some other guy's ass while he's sitting there in his shorts.

The 3 meter drop was a little scary, but in practice it's really easy. Sort of like the Slide for Life at basic- it's a seventy foot drop, but if you hit it right, you pretty much skip over the top of the water. I did it right, used my weapon and my arms to break my fall, and was underwater for maybe two seconds.

Ten minute swim went by fairly quickly, only problem was there were thirty odd of us in a relatively small pool, and I got kicked in the head twice and pushed underwater once. That wasn't a whole lot of fun.

Then we got pushed in with our gear and had to maintain positive control of our rifle and LCE at all times while swimming what ended up being 25m, which is evidently the new standard, not 15. Small difference. I just popped over on my back and did a really slow, really steady backstroke. Even kept my weapon dry.

I'm no great swimmer, but as long as you keep steady and don't panic, almost anyone could pass this test. I think it was at least a 70% pass rate, even for the people doing it for the first time. It's hard not to panic, especially when you're on your back and someone kicks you in the head and forces you underwater or something, or when your strokes are off for an instant and you start to sink, but if you don't panic, it's pretty easy. Great workout too, and a lot of fun.
 
madcap_magician said:
. The shoes were the biggest problem,



. Sort of like the Slide for Life at basic- it's a seventy foot drop, but if you hit it right, you pretty much skip over the top of the water. .



shoes or boots?

I am confused and I did basic at FT Sill since I was an FO, but they do the slide for life in basic training now?


Edited to add, I got some friends that remember sliding into a dirt pile from 83 to 99 time frames, but no one has piped up on doing a slide for life into water at basic

Only slide for life we know of is at Ranger School
 
Horned Toad said:
shoes or boots?

I am confused and I did basic at FT Sill since I was an FO, but they do the slide for life in basic training now?


Edited to add, I got some friends that remember sliding into a dirt pile from 83 to 99 time frames, but no one has piped up on doing a slide for life into water at basic

Only slide for life we know of is at Ranger School

IDK, I don't leave for basic until this summer, but that is what I was told by three cadets who went last summer...
 
madcap_magician said:
IDK, I don't leave for basic until this summer, but that is what I was told by three cadets who went last summer...


hmmm cadets if you go to Benning I woudnt get your hopes up on that one, did find out that Brag had a slide for life over water for basic.


Good luck, if you want some no BS info before you go check out ArmyRanger.com, but be warned read the FAQ first if you feel like posting
 
Horned Toad said:
hmmm cadets if you go to Benning I woudnt get your hopes up on that one, did find out that Brag had a slide for life over water for basic.


Good luck, if you want some no BS info before you go check out ArmyRanger.com, but be warned read the FAQ first if you feel like posting

That would probably explain it, cadets who go through basic go wherever they want to branch. Most of ours are infantry, because the local guard unit is infantry, but some of them were at Knox, and the ROTC LDAC course junior year is all over, we go to Washington usually.
 
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