Coming Home to Leeds

Jack Black

Seize the Lambsfoot! Seize the Day!
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Quite some time ago, Kris (as in Cuts Like A Kris) got in touch, to tell me he had something he wanted to send back to Leeds, the Yorkshire town where I now live. I was certainly very intrigued, unlike Sheffield, where I was born, Leeds isn’t famous for its cutlers, and while they existed, the fruits of their labour are certainly not widely seen.



A package arrived from Kris the other day containing two knives. The older one, a well-loved Swayback, which I think may have originally been a Lambsfoot, was the one from Leeds, but I struggled to make out what the tang said, not least since a couple of letters had been almost completely ground away. I struggled and squinted, managing to make out most of the letters I thought, then checking them against a list of Yorkshire surnames. Unlike the cutlers of Sheffield, there has been virtually nothing written about the cutlers of Leeds, and I struggled to find anything. Of course, not knowing the name of the firm I was looking for hindered matters greatly! I bounced a couple of messages back and forth with Kris, and then he completed the link – Croisdale! Once I had that, I was able to find out a little more info, and after half a day poking around various online directories and census registers, I came up with some basic info about where the knife Kris had sent me had come from.








James Croisdale is listed in the 1837 Leeds Directory of Trades & Professions as a cutler of 61 Kirkgate, the town’s oldest street. James Croisdale was a fairly common name in 19th Century Leeds, but this was the James Croisdale born in either 1801 or 1808. In the 1839 edition of the same directory, he is listed as a working cutler, surgical instrument and elastic truss maker at 59 and 61 Kirkgate. In 1870, James Croisdale is listed as a partner with George Stephen Cox in Croisdale & Cox, ‘cutlers, truss-makers, and ironmongers’ at 53-54 Kirkgate, with additional premises later at 36 Briggate. At the beginning of 1880, the partnership was dissolved, with notice being given in the London Gazette of 12th March. In the 1891 Leeds Census, James is listed as a cutler, still residing at 61 Kirkgate (Mr Cox is not mentioned in the same census). I assume that this James is the son of the first James Croisdale, either that or the James Croisdale of 1837 had an extraordinarily long working life! James Croisdale’s were born in Leeds in 1833, 1836, and 1855.

After the dissolution of Croisdale & Cox, James Croisdale continued to operate from premises at 36 Briggate, just a few yards from where he lived. Croisdale & Son were styled as ‘Cutlers, Sporting and Athletic Outfitters, Ironmongers, and Silversmiths’ . Harold Croisdale (born 1878) later became a partner in the company, alongside his father and a Fredrick William Beer. In November 1904 however, notice was given in the London Gazette that the partnership was being dissolved by mutual consent, and that the business would continue with James Croisdale and Frederick William Beer as sole partners. The company were gone by the early 1930’s.

Croisdale may have originally made knives themselves, but later, they seem to have been more of a retailer, who like many other hardware companies, would have knives, razors, and scissors, (all of which they sold), made up in Sheffield, where there were vastly more working cutlers, and where better prices could probably be found. Some of their knives were marked as being hand-forged in Sheffield, along with the Croisdale, Leeds tang-stamp. The Sheffield name also carried far greater prestige with regard to cutlery of course.

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Briggate, the central Leeds thoroughfare where Croisdale were situated has changed massively since this photograph (above) was taken at the turn of the century, but many of the old buildings are still there, albeit with different frontage, and certainly different proprietors. The business on the corner of Briggate in the 1900 photograph – Sutton’s - was at No33. Number 33-36 are now occupied by a branch of McDonalds. Here’s how it looks today.



So a nice knife with lots of great character, and an interesting piece of Yorkshire cutlery history. But there was a second knife included in Kris’s package – my first Canadian knife – a Nahco Penknife. So that’s something else for me to find out about! Thanks for your kindness Kris, it’s very much appreciated :thumbup:

Jack





 
Kris A wonderful gesture and gifts.

Jack A great story and history lesson! Thanks for the research and photos. I always enjoy your photos and getting to see the sights and places from far away. And, yes I also enjoy seeing all those great knives in your collection.

~ Ron
 
Kris - wonderful gifts and an awesome gesture to send that bit of Leeds history back home.

Jack - equally wonderful research. Thanks for sharing it with all of us.

:thumbup: :)
 
Thank you again Jack, of the combination of a history lesson, and geography all rolled into one. :thumbup:

LOVE the photo of the same building then and now. Suttons and now a Micky D. How times change some things. Oh yeah, the knives are good too!:D
 
Way to go, Kris and Jack!! Fascinating story, and impressive detective work on Jack's part! :eek::eek:
(Something I didn't realize until this thread is that Jack lives in Leeds, about which I know almost nothing, except one of my favorite Who albums in my youth was titled "Live at Leeds".)

- GT
 
Jack--wonderful bit of detective work! Thanks for sharing with us. I had no idea about the Leeds cutlers--their history is fascinating!
 
Wow, those are wonderful gifts, Kris and great history due to you, Jack!:thumbup: I am always up for learning about stamps on knives, no matter which brand they fall under. It makes sense that Sheffield took most of the credit for cutler work by the late 19th to early 20th centuries! But to find out all the partnerships and changes, that's just too cool! Thanks for the history, Jack, I really enjoyed reading it and will probably read it again and again!
Perry
 
Thanks for all the kind words gents, and glad this was of interest. Maybe, when I have full access to to the census records and more time, I can find out a bit more :thumbup: I was up until after 2.00am trying to upload those few pics, been having problems with Photobucket the past few days :(

Hope you're all safe from the storm :)

Jack
 
Thank you for your contributions to the forum, and for looking up the extra information my friend!! I stopped with my LG3 diagnosis. That old girl had been calling to go home for a while, but I had to remember to get your address first!! You should listen when a knife speaks after all, and that one o wouldn't be using, so it's nice to have it relocated. Im just glad it finally made it, last time I tried something like this the package disappeared- over two years ago!!

I think that Jack and I will have a disagreement on original blade shape, as I'm a Wharncliffe guy that's where I'm laying my bets as to original shape!!

Not sure anything about the Canadian knife, other than I wish I had a better same for you, and it's the only Canada marked slipjoint I've seen. (Outside of Grohman, but that is a lockback!

Thank you for the good wishes from my actions, but they aren't necessary, just trying to keep light in the universe!!
 
Great bit of detective work, my good Watson! I can see you by candle light scribing notes on old parchment. Super cool picture of the turn of the century and now. These old cutlers are smiling that their work has been brought back into the light by your diligent efforts, Jack:cool:

Good on you Kris:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Awesome gesture Kris! :thumbup:

Nice thread Jack, I really enjoy reading your research into the provenance of these old knives. I especially liked the old / new shot of the buildings. I wish I could glimpse more of the roofline going down that street. Old brick and slate, replaced by steel and glass, sad. Then a thought occurred, was this an area subject to destruction during the second big war?
 
Thanks for all the kind words guys, and thanks again to you Kris :)

Nice thread Jack, I really enjoy reading your research into the provenance of these old knives. I especially liked the old / new shot of the buildings. I wish I could glimpse more of the roofline going down that street. Old brick and slate, replaced by steel and glass, sad. Then a thought occurred, was this an area subject to destruction during the second big war?

Briggate is looking quite grotty at the moment Duane, a lot of shops closed due to the recession, and a hideous new arcade at one end. The buildings further up are better preserved, as are the Victorian shopping arcades that run off it, and the lanes containing ancient pubs ;) I'm still having difficulty uploading pics, so have filched a few images for you. There was some bombing of Leeds in WW2, but absolutely nothing compared to what Sheffield endured. That area was originally composed of a labyrinth of lanes and alleyways, but these were cleared to prevent the spread of diseases like cholera. The whole street has been completely pedestrianised for a long time now, as has much of the city centre, and as you say, much of the old brick and slate has been replaced by concrete and glass, but some of the buildings still have upper floors which havenn't changed so much, and at the top of the street there is a Victorian music hall.

Jack

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