Commander lock failure

Hi!

I've got two older models (thicker), no failing there, one of them i've spine whacked A LOT, hard, snappy, not-so hard, loose, you name the way one can snap and i've done it!

The newest one is marked (19)99 so i think the thinning of the scales was done after that.
If i remember correctly it was due to comsumers request for a slimmer profile.

I guess anything can fail, was there multiple failing or was it just once? i've read and experienced that a knife can fail once and then never.

Hope that i helped out to at least some degree
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Mark6,

Was this knife one of the Thinner or the thicker versions? Did it have the extra detent?

How do the Navy Commanders differ from the civilian version and what branch of the Navy was this one issued to and when?

Thanks,

Ben
 
I don't mean to speak for Derek here, he should probably answer this question, but I think he's out right now.

Derek, please correct any misinformation I may have here.

I'm going to stick my neck out here with an educated guess. My understanding is that the Navy has not "issued" the Commander, ES1-M or any other Emerson Specwar/EKI knife. EKI did however just get the Navy SARK contract. However, it is my understanding that Emerson Specwar/EKI knives are . . . "popular" with Socom (including Naval) personel who often purchase thier own gear.

To quote Ernies recent announcement:
EMERSON KNIVES proudly announces the recent awarding of two government contracts. One contract is with NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) and the other is with the United States Navy. We are very honored to be chosen for both of these prestigious projects and appreciate the acknowledgement that these and other pending projects give us official “government contractor” status. We have always been heavily involved personally with various branches of both the US and foreign governments, however, most of these situations have involved an intentionally vague veil on the part of Emerson Knives due to the nature of the agencies or units involved.

These are our first “top side” contracts and as a result, are the first that we are able to announce publicly. Since our company is only 3 years old, these are both important events and I am very proud of how far we have come and the tremendous influence that we have exerted in so short a time
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You may have seen an ES1-M which is basically a larger overall version of the Commander. Was that the how it was "different"?
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Personally, I'm not a big "spine whacker". I prefer to do my whackin with the sharp side of the blade.
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John
 
Just to add what I know and was told.
I received two ES1-M's from Ernie in 97/98.
He specifically told me at the time that he had to fulfill a NSW recqusition of around 20 knives at that time. He did not mention which "TEAM" @ Coronado was receiving them, or exactly how many total were going to be made. Obviously 1,3,or 5.
There was some feedback at that time about reducing their size due to some TEAM members not having large enough hands to comfortably work w/ the ES1-M. Hence the birth of the Commander. There may have been some Military Commander versions made as Mark6 exclaims. I do not know for sure.
There was also at that time a Civilian version which was w/o WAVE feature but same size as ES1-M demensions. They were sold as Customs and eventually dropped and scaled down to current Commander demensions.
Derek could find out exact details if needed. Hope that helps.

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Hmm... my Commander fails even low-force spine whacks about half of the time. In fact, light finger-tip force applied to the spine-side tip of the blade causes the lock to slip a towards unlocking.

Here's a picture of the lockup in question:
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Needless to say, I am concerned. Do you folks think I should send it back to EKI for inspection and possibly repair?
 
Yeedude,

You BET! There is no reason Emerson should let a flaw like that slip by QC. Send it back ASAP. I hear their service is pretty good... I hope better than their QC. That's dangerous. I can see from the detent that the knife you have is one of the newer models...

Ben
 
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