commander vs cqc anything

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memnoch

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i have had the opportunity to handle a cqc6 in the past and would have loved to get one.

however now that i have a commander i cant see why.

commander has superior ergonomics, larger blade and a wave. the cqc6 had the green g-10 scales and a nice blade but, well, it aint a commander.

how many of you agrre with me that the commander as a self defense knife beats the entire cqc series hands down
 
I dont know I have heard several things about certain commaners essig up over time and getting to become crap, but I hae also been favorable to the CQC series fromthe very start...........
 
I argree that the Commander is a great knife but it doesn't replace all the knives in the CQC series. They all have different characteristics that make them special. The wave however...

Jason
 
The Commander is IT.

I own several. I have a '98 (serial number 761), a '99, a serialized CN Commander (part of a set) and I just picked up another Commander today, a 2000 model.

Quality on all of them is top notch.

The design has changed slightly since the '98 model.
  • The newest one's grip is thinner feeling
  • The liners are thinner and serrated behind the wave for better thumb traction.
  • The blade grind is just slightly different, the newer grind keeps more of the blade thickness out to the tip.

Overall I like the changes that have been made since the Commanders inception.

I can't recommend the Commander enough to people. It is without a doubt the best "Tactical" folder on the market in my opinion.

John Hollister
 
It's all about having the right tool for the job. If the Commander fits the task at hand then you've got the right tool.

I think that the Commander is a great design. I just wish the handle was a little bigger.

And now for the cocktail talk... I think that if I were some super-duper door kicker who however unlikely might find himself locked in mortal hand-to-hand combat where the outcome of the fight could come down to a mere folding knife AND my adversary might be wearing some sort of ballistic armor AND I had no target aside from this then I might be inclined to choose a knife with a straight blade and a sharp, tuff point for stabbing penetration such as the CQC-6.

In the mean time I just think it looks really neat!

See you guys at the show.

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[This message has been edited by arkhamdrifter (edited 03-06-2000).]
 
I have a pretty good collection of all of them, so I'll try to help. It is about the right tool.
CQC5-compact tanto style, concealable, pentration oriented.
CQC6-less concealable, great in reverse grip for pentration.
CQC7-pure hardcore pentration with a squared off pommel for the thumb to lock over.
CQC8-this is the best all round fighter of the group. It aligns equally well for both saber, or hammer grip, with a long edge for slashes, and a good point for penetration.
CQC9-hawkbill or talon type blade that is good for utility cutting (seatbelts, rope, etc.), as well as some devastating abilities to do specialized anti-personnel cutting tasks.
Rhino-sentry removal-period.
ES1 and Commander-these are great for slashing strikes in saber grip. They deploy very fast (I was just timed a .80 seconds), and are superior for both utility and self defense work.
I don't claim to be a knife expert (firearms are really my thing), but I hope this is helpful. In my humble opinion, you can't go wrong with the commander for a do everything folder.
 
Nyeti,

Thats cool that you got to train with Tamishigiri at the edged weapon conference. I met up with him a while back and checked out his collection where I was able to see some rare Emersons.

Anyway, this post is in regards to your CQC description list and specifically the most specialized of the Emerson line, the Rhino. I think that the knife excells at the cutting task that you mentioned. I am sure that my comments regarding this knife are nothing new to guys like you who, from the sound of it, train regularly but I would nonetheless like to add that this knife would make quite an effective self defense tool.
For someone trainned in Arnis or Silat the Rhino would be nothing short of deadly once the distance was closed. Also, I think that this knife would lend itself VERY well to trapping and disarming. In reverse grip it would clear a path through flesh that would take a spool of thread to sew shut.

Again, this knife has been purpose built with very a specific task in mind and like minds agree: its all about having the right tool for the job. But, I do think that its capability extends well beyond its intended use.

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[This message has been edited by arkhamdrifter (edited 03-09-2000).]
 
Hey John

You might want to add on to your list that the newer ones have phillips head screws on them and the '98's have regular straight screws.

Just thought I'd let ya know.

Ross T.

[This message has been edited by ROSANGHAL (edited 03-09-2000).]
 
Arkhamdrifter,

I totally agree. One of the things we found this weekend was that the Chaos (designed by Tami, and produced by Smoking Hole Knives) was an awesome edged weapon. The Chaos is basically a blown up La Griffe, and features a long wicked curved blade like the Rhino. I will admit that I don't carry my Rhino at all (due to its value). I did pick up some Chaos trainers, and plan on working on some technique with them. I was really awed by the performance of the Commander. It made me really appreciate my ES1M. I think that I can say that everyone at EWC2000 was really impressed with the Commander once they started doing some hardcore work with them. Even Kevin McClung (who does not really believe in folder use at all) was impressed by the Commander. The Rhino is pretty much useless for utility work-but it is an awesome weapon. The ES1/Commander, seems to have a good balance of doing everything well.

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Nyeti,

The Commander really is an awsome folder. Anyone who has trainned with this knife will know exactly why. While I have not trainned with the ESM-1 I would still bet that its simply more of a good thing.

Kevin has got a good arguement for fixed blade use. After all they deploy with the blade "locked" every time. However I think that even the smaller variants are awkward for daily carry in a first world society regardless of how slick the carry system happens to be. I mean try driving a car with an inside the pants or small of the back rig. No thanks. Small neck knives seem to be the only type that really lend themselves to carry.

Tamishigiri told me about the Chaos and I checked out the website. The knife is very cool for so many reasons.

I designed a Kerambit hybrid a little over a year ago. One went to a guy who writes for TK and I sent the other out to Tamishigiri. I should have several designs including a folder on the internet in a few months.

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