Comments on Spyderco Dragonfly II

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When the topic of knives with sub 3" blades comes up, the Spyderco Dragonfly is often mentioned. Since I am partial to the small Spydies, I decided to get a Dragonfly II with stainless steel handle and plain edge ATS-55 blade. Here are some initial impressions of this knife, after owning it for just a few days.

The blade is quite stiff when opening, but very smooth, with none of the grittiness that some new knives have. I lubed it a bit and assume that it will break in over time, as my other Spydies have. Lockup is strong, with no blade play in any direction. With the stainless steel handle, the overall feel is a very tight, solid little knife.

The only work that I have done with it so far is some light tasks, such as opening boxes of computer monitors and network equipment. This was not enough of a workout to comment on edge holding, but I can say that the relatively thin, flat ground blade is great for slitting things open, especially when you need to work the blade into a crack. The plain edge would not be my choice for cutting zip ties and other hard plastics; the Rescue Jr. or a good pair of shears is better for that task. The knife was not shaving sharp out of the box, but had a good utility edge, which is fine for me. I have not used it enough yet to need resharpening.

The handle is interesting. It is very narrow, curved down at the end, and has a wide cutout underneath. The narrow handle does not make the knife easier to carry, since the wide blade protrudes out when closed. So, I assume that the handle was designed this way to make it more secure to hold. I had to spend some time trying to find a comfortable grip. What does not work is to put my index finger in the choil and hold the handle in my palm. That is the way I hold my Navigator, but the Dragonfly handle is too narrow for that. Instead, I put my index, middle, and ring fingers in the cutout, wrap my pinky around the end, and hold the handle kind of like a pistol grip. This is very stable, secure, and helps offset the slipperiness of the steel handles. It works well for me, but of course everyone's hands are different, so YMMV.

The only drawback that I have found with this knife is the clip. It works fine IWB when I'm wearing sweatpants or shorts. It also fits perfectly into my Mission Wallet or the small Eagle Creek belt pouch that I sometimes wear. Unfortunately, it does not carry well when clipped vertically against the outer seam of a front pants pocket. It is not hard to see why. The narrow, curved handle means that there is only one possible place to put the clip. However, this placement of the clip means that the end of the knife, plus about 1" of closed blade, sticks out of the pants. It tends to snag on things, works its way around horizontally in the pocket, and is also very noticable. For me, this is not a major problem, since I have other carry options.

Overall, I recommend this knife for those who are looking for a small, solid knife with a flat ground blade, as long as you do not intend to carry in your front pants pocket.
 
I'm afraid I must chime in, as I had a horrible experience with this knife.

The blade: If you search the Spydie forum, you will find many posts regarding this: Unless you keep this knife in a vacuum chamber, it will rust. I carried the Dragonfly in my jeans pocket in Colorado in the spring. This means ~15% humidity. I didn't really even use the knife, yet everyday when I'd come home the blade had a nice coat of rust on it. I did tough cloth it, with no luck.

It's too bad, because I really liked the shape, it was definitely a "big" little blade. If spyderco would make a new version in VG10, I would snatch one up in a second.

my .02USD

Dan
 
Dan, maybe your rusting Dragonfly was a fluke?

I don't own a Dragonfly but I do own plenty of Spydercos with ATS-55 blade steel (2 Delicas, Rescue, Mini-Dyad, G-10 Police) and I have never had any of them rust--even down here in the humid Carolinas.

Did you contact Spyderco's warranty dept.?


As for the Dragonfly II,
I think it's a very nice small folder, but it just did'nt feel that comfortable to me. I like the Calypso Jr. design better.

Good luck,
Allen.
 
AllenC,

That is the strange part, I've owned two or three Harpys over then past 5 0r 6 years and no problems.

I did indeed contact Spyderco. I went down to the factory, which is 15 miles south of where I was. A very rude lady rubbed that day's rust of with a Tuffcloth ( I'd do this every night ) and sent me on my way. I called a few days later and mentioned this to them and they basically told me I was SOL. I chalked it up to a bad experience and gave the knife to a friend who now has it rust in her pocket everyday.

Oh well....

Dan
 
Originally posted by lesoleilnoir
The blade: If you search the Spydie forum, you will find many posts regarding this: Unless you keep this knife in a vacuum chamber, it will rust. I carried the Dragonfly in my jeans pocket in Colorado in the spring. This means ~15% humidity. I didn't really even use the knife, yet everyday when I'd come home the blade had a nice coat of rust on it. I did tough cloth it, with no luck.
Uh oh, that sounds bad. I will have to post a followup after the summer, since ours are very humid. I have heard the ATS-55 horror stories also. One that stands out in my mind was a gentleman from Israel who had the same daily rust experience as yours and the same service frustrations. I decided to take a chance though, since my ATS-55 Rescues have survived my sweaty summer pockets just fine. Time will tell whether I just bought a Rust-O-Rama...;)
 
Tarsier,

I'd say just keep on top of it, again I've only had trouble with that dragonfly, not my harpys and as far as I can remember, I haven't really seen any other rust related complaints on any of the other ats55 blades. :rolleyes:
 
Never had a problem with any SS handled Spydies, even the Dragonfly. I worked for 4 summers outside at our zoo here in St. Louis. And if you've ever lived in St. Louis in July-August, you know what hell 198% humidity and 98* feel like on your back. Even with sweating like a pig for 10 hours a day, I've never had any rust.
Matt
 
I live in Colorado and my Dragonfly has shown no rust at all after a year of use with oiling once a month.
 
other than Oct-today(when it was packed up, then sent in dec, and now back), I carried my SS 'Fly PE since Aug 20 2001. This summer it was IWB while wearing a wool uniform, and 2 weeks of that was 50c in the shade, in central Alberta.

I haven't had any rust problems with any of my ATS-55 bladed spyderco knives, just my 8A BeadBlasted CRKT Bearclaw, and that was neck carry in 35c biking. now has a mirror polish from my dremel and no rust.

Love my 'fly, used it for boxes at work, and it was my main carry all summer(1 of 4 knives). put a convex edge on it last spring, and it has no wire. lasted all summer, with only a slight touchup when I got back in mid august. ATS-55 works. Still love VG-10 and S60V though.
 
I imagine that it must have been a bad batch. I've always had a special place for Spydies, just not with this one.

Dan
 
Whoa :eek:

I have several blades in ATS 55 and I have never had one rust. Hell I carries my Merlin non stop for 6 months without oiling it. I only wiped it off with a rag when I used it on something messy.

Dan, send that puppy back to Syderco!
 
I've also owned a good handful of ATS-55 knives, including one which was my EDC for about two years. Got used for everything. No rust.
 
I have 2 ATS55 knives. The Harpy has had no rust problems for 4 years. The Matriarch, not used for every day chores, only carried if needed, had one unexplainable rust pit in its first month. It was a significant pit right on the flat of the blade under the hole. I sanded and polished it and although you can still see it I have never again had a problem (2 1/2 years).

If rust ever starts on a knife, my experience has been that you really need to sand and polish the whole surface or rust can start again, easier than in the beginning. I do occasionally polish both knives with Flitz and routinely lube with Miltec for the Matriarch and Tuff-glide for the Harpy. However, I do not coat the blade with either lube.

My only problem with ATS55 was the tip broke off my Harpy. It came in contact with a glass plate in the garbage. The glass didn't break but about 3 mm of the tip did. I had heard that ATS55 could be a little brittle, but don't know if it's true. Spyderco re-did the tip, but because it was a G10 Harpy and discontinued, they wouldn't/couldn't replace the blade.
 
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