Commodities Ocean Dream. "Uz ingot" 2

[momo]

Continued .... ... Dream Yat-day Arab-Israeli goods. "Uz ingot" Ye.

http://www.knifenut.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1404
The II.
As a result of the first ..... saying "Uz steel egg" has failed. [Foreign hereinafter referred to as "egg Uz"]
I told customers that ....
Another one it had to retain the status quo of the finishing.
Pickling lines and then make a good collection.

This would have thought that over.
Later customers find information on the characteristics of it.
[Posted in the last. Hypothermia forging information]
But the production is sent abroad, it was said that the failure of

It does not matter, he said give him to do so now!
When experience is required.

Well want to say. Hypothermia on the low-temperature forging forging.

Give him a hard hard.
Hammer turtle afraid of. "Uz steel," why be afraid of a hydraulic hammer.
Therefore, on the choice of a rainy weather forging. [It rains you just the other day]
So less heat.
But really .... the hard xx ah.
During the day and night from a hit.

开始.


續....天阿...夢幻逸品."烏茲鋼錠"耶.
http://www.knifenut.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1404
的第二集.
話說.....由於第一顆"烏茲鋼蛋"已經失敗.[國外稱"烏茲蛋"]
我就跟客戶說....
另一顆把它整個整理過保留原狀.
然後酸洗出紋路好好收藏就好.

本來以為這樣就結束了.
後來客戶找到資料說明了它的特性.
[上次轉貼的.低溫鍛造資料]
不過國外有人送去製作也是失敗的說

他說沒關係再給他做下去吧!
當經驗也行.

想說好吧.低溫鍛造就低溫鍛造.

硬就給他硬.
烏龜怕鐵鎚."烏茲鋼"怕油壓鎚嘛.
所以就選擇了一個下雨的天氣鍛造.[剛好那天下雨啦]
這樣比較不那麼熱.
不過....還真xx的難打啊.
從白天打到黑夜.

開始.

比例.

進爐燒囉.

全程用低溫鍛燒.

油壓壓製.

每次延長只有一點點.前後進出爐子好多次.

 

[momo]

待續..........

 

[Armin Drumm]

Is this a Wootz ingot? Or a ball of a ball-mill???

 

[Keith Montgomery]

This thread should get interesting.

 

[razorsdescent]

yeah i was a little weirded out at first but now im liking what im seeing

 

[braillediver]

I wonder what momo sees in that blob of metal? I'd give anything to tag along and bother him while he makes this whatever it is.


Mitch

 

[JParanee]

This thread should get interesting.

I agree

 

[D lisch]

I have seen balls like this I think it is tumbler medium used to turn rock into powder.

 

[momo]

Continue.

"Elongation"

After a dozen times over the hydraulic pressure machine twist.
Finally had some prototype.
But also the success of Jerusalem. [There is no crack]
But a further effort to pressure oil press twist.
[Useful manual intermediate pressure forging twist. It can be hard. Knock knock are fixed]
The continued pressure of a long drawn-twist. The more severe the more difficult to draw closer to a long thin.

繼續.

"抽長"

反覆經過了十幾次的油壓機的壓捻.
終於有了一些雛型.
而且還很成功耶.[沒有龜裂]
不過還要再努力用油壓機的壓捻.
[壓捻中間有用手工鍛造.真是硬的可以.敲都敲不動]
繼續壓捻抽長.越到接近薄度越難抽長.

 

[momo]

"Forge-type knife."

Pressure to finally ... I have to thin the degrees.
But the hard starts. Hand-forged knife type.
Hand-forged steel Uz people are really tired of things.
Forge is really really feel. Very. Very. ..... Very hard.
Hammer seems to be a direct hit in the "Iron spy" on the feeling.
And only a little bit of depression.
Also thought to produce easy here.
"Re-hard" also deserves some support牙一咬.
Produced here ... prepared drink of ice water left 5 / 1 a.
[Fortunately, this. Otherwise, I really will heat stroke]

"鍛打刀型".

終於...壓到我要的薄度了.
但是辛苦的正要開始.手工鍛打刀型.
手工鍛造烏茲鋼真的是很累人的事情.
鍛打真的感覺真的是非常.非常.非常.非常.....的硬.
好像是鐵鎚直接打在"鐵覘"上的感覺.
而且只有一點點的凹陷.
心想也好不容易製作到這裡了.
"再硬"牙一咬撐一下也值得.
製作到這裡...事先準備的結冰水也喝到剩5/1了.
[還好有這個.不然我真的會中暑]

待續...........

 

[Doug C]

Woot,woot!
A momo thread. :thumbup:

Doug

 

[Bladeandbarrel]

MOMO is my favorite poster on BF, by far. There is something often gained in the translation! GREAT STUFF MOMO!

 

[Doberman_Dave]

Thank you for the post momo! Like some of the other guys here, I always enjoy seeing your work and the strange translations.

I've asked a friend to translate your post for me.
Cheers,
Dave

 

[Doberman_Dave]

They mystery remains. Reply from Ugo the dog:
"Dear Dave, this is not an area my mistress is versed in. I've tried to help her out here.

It's about making a knife out of a steel ingot. Damascus steel (is that the same steel that makes the submachine guns Uzi? It could be, since it's called "a Uzi ball".

It would seem to be a very hard thing to do that few people succeed in doing.
But that person succeeded by forging it at a very low temperature. And on days where it rains (don't ask me why, except for the forger's comfort). You take it in and out of the kiln many times.

Then It's put under an hydraulic press some ten times to gradually elongate it. There is also some forging by hand to give it its final appearance. The final result is without cracks and only a little sunken.

The person who did this almost had a heat stroke...

BTW, that type of automatic translation is what you get on Google, next to a web site address: it says "translate this page". Just try it.
I did it recently for a Chinese site on the Pekingese dog which was translated as the "antiquata dog". Why, I have no clue. You will also notice that those translations always sound as if what you're trying to read has something to do with kinky sex... The emperor's court was translated as "intrauterine".

SEe you one of these days,
Ugo the beachbum (they took me on holidays to Oregon)

 

[momo]

Thank you for your translation.
I know that the Internet is really the translation can not read it.

But picture is that we understand the language.

謝謝您的翻譯.
我知道網路翻譯真的是很讓人看不懂.

不過圖片是我們都懂的語言.

 

[haggismonger]

"We understand the language"

absolutely right. Thanks for the pictures, It's going to be a great finish!

 

[momo]

Continue.

Knife-type. Flank grinding.

After "annealing" process. The next day after cooling.
I will knife embryos removed from the oven.
Statements in the computer paper and then draw the knife-type. And design.
And then drill a hole grinding aids.
Drill holes in the process of drilling is not difficult to find.
Is almost the feeling of steel boring.
Forge did not like it as difficult to deal with.
Steel ah really strange.

Appearance of a knife cut. And then removed on both sides.
At this time the feeling. Just like the feeling of the production of carbon steel.
Only slightly more than than the number of carbon steel hardware.

Grinding and then rough flank. Fine.
Awaiting the final heat treatment.

Find it very surprising thing.
Such a small a small iron ball.
Was also drawn to such a long long.
About 20 several centimeter.

繼續.

刀型.刀面研磨.

經過"退火"手續.冷卻後的隔天.
我將刀胚從爐子裡取出.
然後在電腦報表紙上畫下刀型.及設計圖.
然後鑽個輔助研磨的洞.
在鑽洞的過程中覺得並不難鑽穿.
差不多就是鑽碳鋼的感覺.
並沒有像它鍛打的那樣難應付.
真是奇怪的鋼材啊.

切出刀子外型.然後兩面磨平.
這時的感覺.就像製作碳鋼的感覺.
只是稍微比碳鋼硬一些而已.

然後研磨刀面粗.細磨.
最後等待熱處理.

覺得很驚訝的事.
這麼小的一顆小鐵球.
竟然也能抽長到這麼長.
約20幾公分.

 

[momo]

待續...........

 

[flatgrinder]

Very unique designs and excellent craftsmanship!! Good work as always, it'll be interesting to see the finished knife. :thumbup:

 

[momo]

Continue.

Design. Heat. Flank processing.

After a good knife grinder. I began to design and prepare painting materials.
Thinking for a long time decided to use these materials.
Preparation of this material.
303. Black pads. Copper gasket. Camel bone. Stainless steel nails. Tube.

The key then is to "heat" of the.
On the literature.
Before heat treatment is similar to 'modern' treatment by the "quenching oil"
So I used "quenching oil" in oil quenching.
[They said that because of the high carbon content not suitable for "water quenching"]

But in my opinion is wrong.
That is to say. Ancient "Uz steel" are soft about HRc 40 ~ 50 a few.
I think this kind of hardness.
Should be done long before the war are using.
So soft to use to increase the hardness of that toughness.

I actually produced.
After oil quenching tempering heat treatment.
I take a known hardness' D2'HRC60
And 'Uz steel' blade scraping each other. Did not expect 'D2', should be a scratch.
Can be seen 'Uz steel' should have more than HRC60.

Then I finished the test on the 'flank to deal with'.
The more detailed re-grinding. And electrical printed LOGO.
This steel is difficult etching 〔〕

繼續.

設計圖.熱處理.刀面處理.

刀子研磨好以後.我開始畫設計圖及準備用的材料.
思考了很久決定使用這些材料.
這支準備的材料有.
303.黑色墊片.銅墊片.駱駝骨.不銹鋼釘.管.

接著就是最關鍵的"熱處理"了.
就文獻記載.
以前熱處理也是用類似'現代'熱處理用的"淬火油"
所以我就用"淬火油"進行油淬.
[他們說因為含碳量太高不適合"水淬"]

但是我覺得有一點說錯了.
就是說.古代"烏茲鋼刀"都偏軟約 HRc 40~50幾.
我想這樣的硬度.
應該是因應以前都是做長刀戰爭用.
所以要用軟一點的硬度來增加韌性.

我實際製作.
熱處理油淬回火後.
我拿已知硬度的’D2’HRC60
與’烏茲鋼’刀刃互刮．沒想到’D2’竟然被刮傷了．
可見’烏茲鋼’應該有HRC60以上．

做完測試後我接著就進行’刀面處理’.
再次的更細緻的研磨．及電印LOGO．
〔這種鋼很難蝕刻〕