Went to a gun show today in hopes of buying a Moore Maker working knife (Camillus made, derlin handle) and compared my Soldier to everyone that a guy had. The MM working knives were much weaker than the Soldier in the back spring department. The more expensive bone handled, Queen made Moore Makers were very comparable, with some stronger and some just a tad weaker in the back spring department. I'm liking Victorinox more and more.