Comparison pictures of some .45 pistols.

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Broken Arrow

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Here are some internal pics of a Smith and Wesson M&P45 and a Glock 21SF.

Top - Glock 21SF, Bottom - M&P45
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Frames and Slides. Top- Glock 21SF, Bottom - M&P45
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L to R - Glock 21SF, Kimber Custom Shop 1911, M&P45
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Kimber 1911 and M&P 45
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Group shot of .45s - Kahr P45, M&P45, Glock 21SF, Kimber 1911
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Nicely done. Have noticed your cool stippiling work before.

Comparison/handling thoughts?

I really want a 21 SF; can't swing a high-end 1911 and can't argue Glock reliability and value. How does the M&P measure up to it?


Mike
 
The stippling that I do really shines when your hands are wet. Not too aggressive, but just right.

The M&P really impresses me. S&W really did their homework in comming up with a design to rival Glock. Many L.E. agencys are switching to them. The standard features that are present on the M&Ps are similar to the features that Glock customers ask me to do to their pistols.

Overall, I'm really impressed with the M&Ps. Some will say that they are new Sigma pistols and won't touch them. That's their loss because the M&P is a new design.
 
The bottom two pistols look just like mine. I have a stainless Kimber and just picked up the M&P45. S&W had a smoking deal on them - gun & 5 mags for way under $500.

The interesting thing about the M&P is it appears the striker spring is fully cocked in between shots. Trigger pressure just releases the sear, so the break is pretty crisp. There is no thumb safety (on mine or the one in the picture) and therefore a little less margin for error.
 
I absolutely love my G21s and will likely add a SF at some point. But I have been rather impressed with the M&P after a trigger job (just some smoothing - the ones I pick up always get better after ~500 rounds fired or a job).
 
Can you feel a major difference in the SF grip? My first centerfire handgun was a Glock 21. It took me a couple of years to realize it was really too fat for my widdle hands.

J
 
Broken Arrow said:
The stippling that I do really shines when your hands are wet. Not too aggressive, but just right.

The M&P really impresses me. S&W really did their homework in comming up with a design to rival Glock. Many L.E. agencys are switching to them. The standard features that are present on the M&Ps are similar to the features that Glock customers ask me to do to their pistols.

Overall, I'm really impressed with the M&Ps. Some will say that they are new Sigma pistols and won't touch them. That's their loss because the M&P is a new design.
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Concur, I have the M&P9C and it is a damn nice pistol. Just wish we could have the 12 round mags in NY.
 
Spectre said:
Can you feel a major difference in the SF grip? My first centerfire handgun was a Glock 21. It took me a couple of years to realize it was really too fat for my widdle hands.

J
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The stock 21SF grip does feel smaller compared to the normal G21. I did a grip reduction and stippled mine, now it feels like a G22 / G17. :)
 
A buddy of mine and I were in a gun shop yesterday evening. He is looking into the Glock 21. The shop had only the SF version. It felt too big for me (another guy with small hands, I guess). I asked about the M&P .45, but they did not have one in stock. I think a single-stack may ultimately work better for me.

Eric
 
Eric006 said:
It felt too big for me (another guy with small hands, I guess). I asked about the M&P .45, but they did not have one in stock. I think a single-stack may ultimately work better for me.

Eric
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The other day I checked with calipers and the double stack M&P45 grip is actually a hair thinner than the single stack Kimber's with the stock rubber grip panels it comes with. When you look at both guns on a table it doesn't seem like this would be the case because of the yawning mag funnel on the M&P, but this is apparently an optical illusion. Also, the M&P comes with three interchangeable "backstraps," and the "small" one makes the grip significantly smaller than the Kimber.
 
cliff355 said:
The other day I checked with calipers and the double stack M&P45 grip is actually a hair thinner than the single stack Kimber's with the stock rubber grip panels it comes with. When you look at both guns on a table it doesn't seem like this would be the case because of the yawning mag funnel on the M&P, but this is apparently an optical illusion. Also, the M&P comes with three interchangeable "backstraps," and the "small" one makes the grip significantly smaller than the Kimber.
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That's useful info. I'll have to hunt down a M&P .45. Apparently, they have been selling well (the current S&W promo has probably helped).

Eric
 
I know this is off-topic, but I just couldn't resist. This picture does mroe to me than porno. I guess I am sick somehow.
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I think those were the initial shipment of the Smith Enterprise "Crazy Horse M14s" that were sent to Iraq! Awesome rifles! :)
 
Broken Arrow, your thread is going to cost me my tax rebate- I can feel it.

You have to look far and wide to find a bad word about the M&P45. And there's a rebate til the end of April? 2 mags or $50?


Mike
 
Ad Astra said:
Broken Arrow, your thread is going to cost me my tax rebate- I can feel it.

You have to look far and wide to find a bad word about the M&P45. And there's a rebate til the end of April? 2 mags or $50?


Mike
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Mike, yes till the end of April. It's 2 free mags and $50. :D
 
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