Compression Lock questions

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When I first saw pictures of the compression lock, it looked to me like Spyderco had just made a liner lock, with the locking leaf on the opposite side of the split from a typical liner lock. But the picture at http://www.chaicutlery.com/spyderco/Vesuvius-CompressionLockDetail.jpg shows there's more going on.

Liner locks often fail because spine pressure can force the tip of the locking leaf to travel down the ramped blade tang. Is the idea behind the compression lock that the tip of the lock itself is pinned between the stop pin and the finger jutting out of the blade tang, which keeps the lock from failing when subjected to spine pressure? I'm hoping Spyderco has tested this extensively (I know I'll be, as soon as I get my grubby hands on one
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If so, what happens over time as that piece of the lock (which is presumeably relatively soft) gets constantly pinched and stressed between the hard lock pin and hard blade tang? Does it start to wobble? Is there any self-correction feature for wear? Actually, thinking about it a bit more, maybe it's just the face of the lock (the vertical part) that keeps the blade from wobbling, and that can be kept solid by using a liner-lock style ramp on the blade tang. The compression feature would only be needed when responding to spine pressure, perhaps, so a tiny bit of slop there won't affect lock-up.

Joe

 
Hi Joe. Yes, you are correct in that the small piece of metal is under compression between the tang and the "anvil pin" which also serves as the stop pin.

The liner is only the carrier. We have other ways to introduce that small piece of metal (plug?) in from the side. The current method is a "one piece lock".

The compression piece isn't soft. Initial testing on strength and reliability has been very good. In excess of 900 inch/lbs. 100% reliability in spine wacks.

The compression piece is resting on an "offset arc ramp" which is self adjusting. We are also using an eccentric pivot permitting additional adjustment.

History is limited at this time. I've been carrying and using one for months. so far so good.

"Going where no one has gone before" unforutnately does not provide maps. I'm sure you will get an opportunity to play with one.

sal
 
Well I've been not only carrying one ..Ok SEVERAL compression locks since Feb...I assume that I abuse my locks more than the average guy cause i'm trying to make it screw up and I slam n jam with lots of people..demoing the GUNTING...and I do go against the lock..Plus I kinetically open it thosands of times..jamming that poor little lock into itself over and over..and no play, no slippage, no slop...
It locks up very solid each time!
The knife and its variants and their compression locks have survived, SPETZ boys, RECONs, Police, martial artists, CONDORS, KGB, MOSSAD, Bourder Patrol, SWAT etc..
plus me just playing around...
But as Sal has said its a new road..But this new fangled sport car is cruising so far right down the road..just like a Porsche eating up pavement!
GREAT LOCK!!!!
 
Sal, what type of stainless steel are you using for the liners? Has the compression lock been used (tested) with a 6AL4V titanium liner?
 
Mark - sorry, secret.

Haven't tested titan yet but it should have good compression strength. We have both plans & design we're playing with.

sal
 
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