Computer build for photo / video editing. Graphics?

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Not a new computer builder, but it's been a year or more, and I have a task-specific question:

I'm considering a new computer build with an emphasis on photo editing, and perhaps video editing. Obviously minor emphases will be on hard drive storage capacity, multi-media burning, a decent monitor, peripheral connectivity, and plenty of RAM. Hoping to keep budget under $2000, maybe closer to $1500 excluding monitor. The computer will not be used for gaming or internet (I have a seven year old machine that's still rock-solid for the games I play).

It's my understanding that editing software is largely processor-dependent and that a graphics card is less important. Can anyone clarify? What's a good card to use that isn't overkill? Price range?

Anyone who's built a photo-editing rig lately, feel fee to list your components.
 
The graphics card still has a good part to play, especially for video editing. That's worth putting at least a bit of money into. Mostly though, you want a lot of RAM, and a decent clip on the chip. If possible a main scratch disk with a very fast read/write (solid state if budget allows).

My own current rig is dual purpose - I used a laptop (Macbook Pro 15) so I can do remote capture on location, and then it doubles as my main machine for photo editing with an external monitor, as well as video editing, but the above elements will work for any platform or OS.

IMO Intel Core i7 chips are currently the way to go, and 8-16gb ram would be a good starting point. Graphics card will be partially driven by what software you intend to use, especially for video editing, and how many monitors (and what resolutions) you want to drive. You can always boost HD capacity using external storage for archiving and the like, so I'd go for two internal drives of 250-500 gb each, and at least your primary application and scratch drive at 7200 rpm (if not solid state).
 
Never saw a high end photo editing, video editing not have a good video card. They come with their own memory on the card for a reason so you offset what is used at the proc level/application level. Build--> Higher end video card (ATI Radeon or any good NVIDIA w/ say 2GB as an example) will be a bulk of the cost at about 250-500 bucks, SSD drive is mandatory these days on your OS partition (60-120gb is fine; more is better but not needed) for ultra fast seek times ripping, writing, encoding data from your applications, a good amount of memory (8-24GB) as the above poster mentioned and lastly would be the processor such as an Intel I7 (x6 core proc)-You would be fine if you picked a higher end AMD also, but the newer Intel proc's are better but of course cost a lot more. A cheap WD Caviar black (1-2TB or whatever you can afford) drive as your data drive and you are all set. Would also be prudent to of course run a 64bit OS for your build considering your needs. Any other choices will not play a huge role. You can do all that for 1500-1800 easy and you would be good to go for 2 years+. Just my .02

Added...Vid cards: You can get something decent for 250 like a ATI Radeon 7000 series or something like a GTX 760 for 300 bucks w/ 4gb and that would be plenty good for what you need. You probably don't need a $400-500 card after all. Make sure to shop online (ie N-Egg or any other place) rather than a local BBuy or somewhere like that or the prices go up a lot.
 
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Excellent comments, thank you.
The i7 is the only processor group I'm considering.
Hard drives, considering SSD for the OS and software and RAID SATA for storage. The SSD is still up in the air though; prices have come down a lot, but I'm still not thrilled with the price-per-gigabyte ratio. Just checked... prices have come way down, more than I thought.
My current archiving is done on an external drive, with regular backups to DVD.
I do want graphics with dual-monitor support, to be prepared.

Monitor is still undecided too. I have some Trinitrons already with beautiful pictures (cost, $0). Some decent inexpensive LCDs are around too, namely the Dell UltraSharp models. Would love to have a professional-grade monitor, but without a business to call it a "business expense" the cost is out of the question.

My most-used software is Nikon CaptureNX, but I also use PhotoShop (older versions), GIMP, Pixia, and others. I'd like to pick up a B&W program. Haven't done much video editing yet, but Wife uses some deluxe version of Sony Vegas.
 
The SSD is for for pure speed/performance not space. Only way you can get a 7-10 sec boot up time and crazy seek time for your hard core apps like vid/photo editing software. You have to have something cheaper for your generic data since you need space, but you have to look at the OS and SSD not for the price per gb...but the performance gained on the system. Regular drives don't even compare re: performance any more.

I use a couple 27 inch Samsungs re: displays that are awesome to me and cost about 2-300 per. You can obviously go a lot higher there, but I don't think it is even necessary. Spend your good money on the components (vid card, proc, memory) and go cheaper with things like displays or even use what you have for the time being. You get a lot of bang for your buck with the cheaper displays these days. Good luck!
 
I'm still a little unclear on the graphics, how much and what type is best utilized by the type of software listed above. In the $200-300 range what would be better, a low-end workstation graphic card, or a mid-range consumer gaming type card?
 
Don't know much about workstation cards, but popular lists like this one get you up to speed quickly on what's currently available. You can check the specifics on models that look interesting through the various review links or buyer reviews over at newegg.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html


Be sure and get a motherboard with an UEFI bios for support of hard drives larger than 2 terrabytes, and you'll need 64bit Windows for more than 4gigs of ram.
 
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Don't know much about workstation cards, but popular lists like this one get you up to speed quickly on what's currently available. You can check the specifics on models that look interesting through the various review links or buyer reviews over at newegg.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html
Be sure and get a motherboard with an UEFI bios for support of hard drives larger than 2 terrabytes, and you'll need 64bit Windows for more than 4gigs of ram.

Thanks!

I was going to save a few bucks and get Windows 7 Home, but it's crippled with memory limitations so Windows 7 Professional it is. 64-bit.

Good link to Tom's Hardware. It's been two years since my last build, so I have had to brush up. A graphic card is about the only item I haven't selected yet.
 
Get two hard drives. The second should be big. The first should be an SSD. Keep your OS, your key editting applications such as photoshop, and your current projects on the SSD.

And don't forget about a practical backup strategy. It's a shame to loose lots of editting work to a hard drive crash.
 
Thanks Gollnick. My plan is an SSD for the operating system and programs, and two standard drives in mirrored RAID for in-progress projects and file storage.
I'll continue with my current dual-archiving process, which is an external hard drive and DVDs.

That should cover it. :thumbup:
 
Anyone who's built a photo-editing rig lately, feel fee to list your components.
Well, I don't do a tremendous amount of photo editing (or gaming), so I can't identify components that are optimized specifically for that task. But, ever since I purchased my 1st off-shelf pc in the mid 80's, I've built my own. My last rig lasted 10 years and I expect my current rig to follow suit. Of course, it's difficult these days to build a rig cheaper than an equivellent machine off the shelf (from a performance perspective); but, it's the only way to go if you want longevity, quality components through and through and the ability to expand beyond the limitations of most off the shelf pc's.

My current rig exceeds my needs, but then again, my philosphy is that if you're going to roll your own, then roll a Big-Whoopass doobie, or just buy something decent from one of the on-line shops or local retailers. Here's a quick snapshot of my build list:

$379.99 - MSI Big Bang II Mobo
$484.99 - Intell Core i7 3930k LGA 2011 processor
$172.99 - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 850W Power Supply
$124.99 - G. Skill 32Gb 1600Mhz Quad Channel RAM
$174.00 - Kingston Hyper X Solid State Drive 240Gb (boot drive)
$106.97 - Seagate Enterprise SATA HDD 1Tb (data drive)
$309.99 - Asus/Nvidia PCIe Graphics Card 660 Ti 2Gb
$129.99 - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme CPU Cooler
$ 63.00 - LG SATA Blu-Ray DVD Burner
$136.98 - Microsoft Windows 7 Pro 64bit, System Builder Pack
$2083.89 TOTAL (not including Case & other Peripherals) (all purchased off amazon, no tax, free shipping)

As I mentioned, this is overkill for me, but just gives you an idea of some components that work very well together and is within your price range, especially if you drop down a notch or two on just the Mobo and Prorcessor; because lightspeed performance can still be achieved while saving hundreds with a less potent Core i7 processor alone. As others have mentioned, Core i7's kick-ass, but it all starts with a good Mobo, followed by a good Processor and an extremely good Graphics Card; everything else can pretty much be budget minded.

I also added an Asus 27" LED/LCD Monitor for $279.99. Even the less expensive LED/LCD monitors are fantastic. But, don't kid yourself, they don't compare to high-end quality monitors optimized for photo editing. The Asus is fine, as was my older Sony Pro LCD, but the truth is that photo editing will indeed expose their weaknesses, especially with color saturation throughout every square inch of the monitor. But, if you're not photo editing at a professional level, then you'd probably be most pleased with a $280.00 LED/LCD monitor. I am, but then again, I only photo edit on occassion and that's at a very basic enthusiast level.

Mr. Gollnick brings up a very good point ~ Don't skimp on your back-up strategy. I use a 500Gb 7200 rpm portable (should have got a 1Tb) and the biggest speed advantage was ditching the worthless USB 2.0 cable and upgrading to 3.0. While read/write transfers may not be astonishingly improved, the 3.0 interface communicates significantly better. Could be a combination of the i7 Processor & Mobo build quality combined with a better 3.0 USB interface, but what ever accounts for the communications improvement is indeed significant. My back-up verification used to take anywhere from 60 to 120 minutes depending upon how much data was changed. With the 3.0 interface, it never takes longer than 8 minutes to scan, identify and write all verification changes.

Anyhoot, I put this rig on-line in late DEC 2012. Clean install, no errors, no halts, just blazin speed. My only complaint is that after 6 months, I can hear the 2.0 Extreme pump making a constant grinding/rattling sound. But, no biggie, it's still cooling like a pro; when it no longer keeps my temps in check, I'll either replace it with another Thermaltake or try a different CPU cooler.













Good luck Bob - Have Fun!
 
Wow, that's a cool rig!

I've taking a step back, after reminding myself I'm not replacing my current main rig and I don't need a giant do-everything machine this time around.
 
There's another aspect to video editing you may not have considered,

Video input. Unless your video camera and other video sources are digital, you're going to need a separate video input card or video capture card.
They usually provide decent video editing software to go with it as well. You want to go for the best native resolution possible as well.
 
Cool system, US-STEEL. :thumbup:
Wow, that's a cool rig!
Thanks Folks! There was a huge learning curve since my last build 10 years ago. It's amazing how far behind one can get if you don't stay current with technology changes. Heck, my last Video Card went into an AGP slot, modular/semi-modular Power Supplies weren't prevalent and neither was LGA 2011 Sockets, SSD's, SATA Disk Drives, PCIe, USB 3.0, Quad-Channel RAM. I felt like a noob all over again.:p. I literally spent 3 weeks studying socket/mobo compatibility, RAM/Graphics and various ports interoperability, OS, etc...before I even felt comfortable enough to order the first component.:)
 
Just had an i7 processor (the biggest one without being a special edition), 16 GB of Ram (could use more), NVidea GTX650 graphics card, and 1 TB hard drive built on an Asus board with Windows 7 proffessional total cost was about $2500.00 for the tower alone. I figure to keep photo files on my external hard drive as well so there is some redundancy (multiple copies of files in different places so if one hard drive dies I don't lose the edited images).

I use a Samsung 24 inch LCD monitor that is a couple years old and keep it calibrated.

Dave
 
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Just had an i7 processor (the biggest one without being a special edition), 16 GB of Ram (could use more), NVidea GTX650 graphics card, and 1 TB hard drive built on an Asus board with Windows 7 proffessional total cost was about $2500.00 for the tower alone..

That's very similar to what I've configured, but I'm going with three hard drives (1 SSD, two 1TB). And I've kept the cost under $1700 (so far) - including monitor, sound card, case, etc.

Here's a running list:
Case, undecided, est.: $100
GeForce GTX650 2GB: $139
OCZ power supply: $89
i7 4770 processor, $309
Samsung SSD drive, 120GB: $100
All-in-one card reader: $19
Patriot Viper 16GB RAM: $134
Seagate HD, 1TB: $140 ($70 each)
Keytronic Keyboard: $14
Asus 24" 1920x1200 monitor: $290
Kensington Mouse: $10
Asus CD/DVD-RW: $20
SoundBlaster card with front panel: $80
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit: $140

TOTAL: $1700.
Plus there are a few rebates and check-out promotions, bringing the cost down slightly more. I have a couple of new cases already laying around that I might use, saving a few bucks. Already have speakers, plenty of them, or I might tap into the home theater.

I could re-use a lot of other stuff too, but I'm not actually replacing my primary machine with this new one.

Just need to decide about a case, and double-check the RAM compatibility with the MB.
 
Just pushed the Order button. Updated list:

Case, Thermaltake Urban S21
Asus 24" IPS monitor
Creative SoundBlaster sound card with front panel
Samsung 120GB SSD drive
OCZ 650 watt PSU
Seagate hard drives, 1TB each
MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate motherboard
Card reader
Gigabyte GeForce 650GTX graphic card
i7-4770 processor
Windows 7 Professional, 64 bit
Patriot Viper RAM, 16GB
Mouse
CD/DVD-RW drive
Creative speakers, 5.1
Keyboard

TOTAL: $1750, including shipping. And it looks like there's a $15 gift card and $25 in rebates.

Would have rather spend $1200 of course. :o
 
Just pushed the Order button.
That's going to be a smokin fast machine Bob. The i7 4770 will leave nothing to be desired and I think you'll be most pleased with it's speed. Likewise, the Mobo & Gigabyte 650GTX should exceed your needs and expectations. I'm diggin the Thermaltake Urban S21 too; love the brushed accents, bottom mount PSU and open Mobo tray. Should be conducive to good cable management, something I need to improve on.:)

My last build prior to my current build was with a Thermaltake Xaser III Case & Gigabyte Mobo. I upgraded throughout the years with more RAM, SATA hard drives, improved Graphics, All-In-1 Card Reader, light kit, etc...but it just got to the point where the old P4 CPU & AGP Graphics Card were the unmitigable weak links.

Here's the retired rig.






 
That's a nice machine too, for a P4. I have that same sound card on my primary machine.

My primary machine is a Core2 Duo running Windows XP, in a Lian Li case. Since it still runs so well and most of my games are from the same era as the machine, I have no interest in upgrading it any time soon.

Here's my kid building his own computer a couple of years ago. Only three years old at the time, so he needed a bit of 'supervision'.
Computerbuild.jpg
 
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